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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 02:47pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1445
of 1449) lunarchick@www.com
Noted the emphasis on incremental shifts towards improved
understanding (above) and wondered conversely how easy it seems to
be to fan-up the embers of prejudice. The demand by the current USA
overlayer of Government for a new cold war might fit more easily
into the popular mind when the simplistic framework of - goodguy v
badguy nation is already patterned. Whereas 'thinking out' a new
understanding requires a little mental effort, sometimes too much
perhaps for the popular mind ?
rshowalter
- 02:55pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1446
of 1449) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Don't sell people THAT short. It is getting harder and harder to
look at the Russians as "bad guys" under Putin's leadership, and
Americans are influenced by positions abroad.
Just a single question among many -- what would happen if the
Queen of England supported peace initiatives, alongside Putin
and but also alongside others in the Privy Council, including
Margaret Thatcher?
Impossible? Maybe, though I'm not convinced, and it is just one
example among many.
"Bad guy" images change -- and especially in redemptive dramas,
which people are used to thinking about.
If it was CLEAR to people with prestige that Russia, under
Putin's leadership, along with other leaders, was working for
REASONABLE ANSWERS and PEACE -- the "good guy -- bad guy" knee jerk
responses might not be very strong -- the desire to give peace a
chance might be strong, instead.
rshowalter
- 03:03pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1447
of 1449) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
There are a LOT of people, who tried hard for peace just six
months ago in the US, who would LOVE to stand for peace in this way,
if they just saw a chance. The GSI initiative to change the format
of one of the Presidential debates was defeated -- but the same
people, using the same arguments, would be powerful voices under
approaches that recognized the "logical incremental" nature of human
affairs.
The GSI initiative tried to change people's ideas in one flash of
brilliant insight. They put together a movie "that everybody could
understand" and a group of big names "that everybody would have to
trust" and people didn't look at the movie, which was unpleasant to
them, and too much of shock, and the political parties, on the basis
of polls, simply denied coverage to the celebrities. And so they
were defeated.
That time.
With a logically incremental approach, and with most of the
world wanting peace, and very dubious about the policies of the
current administration there would be a real chance, with care,
tact and time, of changing enough minds to turn the situation around
completely -- so that America also was working for nuclear
disarmament, and sane conventional military balances.
What happened six months ago is an example of a good idea,
prematurely executed in a strategically unsound way, getting
defeated. The idea was good, and the motivated people behind it are
still motivated, though they are demoralized just now.
A few phone calls, from the right people, and that could start to
change.
rshowalter
- 03:13pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1448
of 1449) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This is the movie -- set out in script and picture form. The
missileers themselves, from both the US and Russia, want to take the
missiles down, or at least get deep reductions, and don't understand
why it hasn't happened.
Rehearsing Armageddon (renamed, for clarity, Rehearsing Doomsday)
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/democracy/nuclear/stories/nukes/index.html
rshowalter
- 03:19pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1449
of 1449) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The appeal rshowalt
10/4/00 4:48am
and the very distinguished Americans who supported it. rshowalt
10/4/00 5:08am
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