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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 10:03am Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1431
of 1434) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A lot of America, these days, is set up to cut off understanding
-- to stop questions from being asked. But if you look at the
structure, a lot of these barriers are set up according to a very
few patterns -- patterns that haven't been changed for many years,
even as the world has changed.
rshowalter
- 12:14pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1432
of 1434) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
lunarchick
3/24/01 7:58am
"Self regulated organizations are subject to abuse --"
that's right -- but we are ALL self-regulated organizations - at the
level of the individual, and at the level of groups.
I got a very, very good question from Lunarchick on the email --
since there are hundreds of thousands of Russians living in the
US, and all over the world - how come there are communication
problems that are deep and intractable?
Partly by mistake among all concerned, and partly with due to the
actions of all concerned. Communication, to work, takes active
cooperation, always within defined limits. To cut off
that cooperation, so that communication stays within limits, and to
see that certain kinds of questions aren't asked -- one responds in
conversation in ways that stop the other person's train of thought
-- either by saying something senseless, that doesn't connect at
all, or by lying, saying something the person you're talking to
won't or can't believe, or that leads into contradictions. That
stops thought and conversation dead.
People do this hundreds of times a day in ordinary conversation
-- and at a certain important level, we are all liars at least at
this level. To cut off trains of thought, we mislead and deflect.
Just now, I've got a little searching to do, and a bit of typing,
- trying to set out a couple of quotes that I think might interest
Russians, and Americans, too. One of the best things I saw this
morning was a passage from Quinn's
.. Strategies for Change: Logical
Incrementalism
which might well have been named
"Illogical, humane, incrementalism."
people have to take things step by step, and get used to things,
and make adjustments. And they are right to be wary -- because they
live in worlds too complicated for them to completely understand.
rshowalter
- 12:38pm Mar 24, 2001 EST (#1433
of 1434) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Human Beings are both much more and much less than "logical
beings" -- and some of the best things about us are associative and
intuitive. Humanity would be unthinkable otherwise. But that also
means that groups of people can convince each other of ideas that
are dangerous and wrong.
In http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/240
I wrote this:
A body of work with profound philosophical and practical
consequences is
A Solution to Plato's Problem: The Latent Semantic Analysis
Theory of Acquisition, Induction and Representation of Knowledge
by Thomas K. Landauer and Susan Dumais ..... (Landauer is at the
Department of Psychology, University of Colorado, Boulder, and
Dumais is now at Microsoft.)
Here is a draft of that paper, which was accepted with revisions,
and published in Psychological Review, v104, n.2, 211-240, 1997 http://lsi.argreenhouse.com/lsi/papers/PSYCHREV96.html
I'm also hotkeying a piece of my own, that was intended to be
part of a thesis proposal that has not been accepted.
"Statistical-Associational Correllation and Symbol Reasoning may be
mutually reinforcing. The example of LSA." http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/lsa
It includes these passages:
"Landauer and Dumais draw this basic conclusion:
" " . . . with respect to (correlations)
supposed to allow the learning of language and other large bodies
of complexly structured knowledge, domains in which there are very
many facts each weakly related to very many others, effective
simulation may require data sets of the same size and content as
those encountered by human learners. Formally, that is because
weak local constraints can combine to produce strong local effects
in aggregate(9).
" ". . . a particular computational arrangement
is not assumed.
" " We, of course, intend no claim that the
mind or brain actually computes a singular value decomposition on
a perfectly remembered event-by-context matrix of its lifetime
experience using the mathematical machinery of complex
sparse-matrix manipulation algorithms. What we suppose is merely
that the mind-brain stores and reprocessed its input in some
manner that has approximately the same effect(10)."
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