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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 03:20pm Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1389
of 1391)
"One thing is that Russians, and Russian dealings, often look
ugly to American eyes. It seems to me that Russian dealings often
look ugly in RUSSIAN eyes, as well, and for good reasons."
Very true. But, I think, that mostly relates to the Post-cold War
era. There wasn't that many deals with Russia during the Cold War,
was it?
"It seems to me that the best thing you can do for you status
in America, and elsewhere, is to improve the aesthetic performance
of Russia -- by RUSSIAN standards. Find ways to make YOUR OWN
society work well, by your own standards."
Agree completely. The problem is, the Russia still didn't find
the socio-economic and political system which works well for them.
They traded the rule by apparatchics to the rule by gangsters.
I don't see the US-Russian competition in any areas other then
arms-sale. Even there, the markets are quite predefined.
I believe Americans are tolerant or rather mostly well-behavied
and "politically correct".
"Americans don't like Russians, in large part, because dealing
with Russians is unpleasant for Americans -- we don't know how to
communcate at the level that complex cooperation takes. When we
think we have a meeting of the minds, we find we don't, or feel that
you haven't kept your word (which we may well have misunderstood.)
"
Keeping the word is not a strong Russian side, particularelly in
casual matters. They have never experienced the pragmatic and
efficient business environment. But I don't think Americans had a
chance to learn that during the Cold War.
almarst-2001
- 03:27pm Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1390
of 1391)
Robert,
As I said, you mostly right about bad or different Russian
habbits the Americans dislike. But isn't it true in relation to most
other non-European culture nations? Even in Europe, there is
strijing difference between for example, Sweeden and Greece or
Italy. And, may be, compared to Southern Europe, the Russia doesn't
look much worst.
almarst-2001
- 03:32pm Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1391
of 1391)
lunarchick
3/23/01 2:43pm
"So within the USA population there are no doubt diverse and
skeptical viewpoints. Overall on Russian in C20, there would be a
view that the people overthrew the monarchy to be done over by the
Communist System, to then be done over by the post Communist System
---- "
In C20 most of Europe went thru several upheavals and disasters,
including two world wars, several regional wars, revolutions and
contr-revolutions, dictatorships and nacizm. Russia was not unique
in that sense.
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