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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 04:02am Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1362
of 1366) lunarchick@www.com
Stockholm
lunarchick
- 04:48am Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1363
of 1366) lunarchick@www.com
Interesting Vocab:
In addition, American officials noted today that the C.I.A. was
"a
team player" in the decision to expel a large number of
Russians, despite a certain reprisal against its own officers in
Russia. One possible explanation is that the C.I.A. has opened
stations throughout many of the former Soviet republics and in the
capitals of former Warsaw Pact allies in eastern Europe, giving the
agency avenues denied it during the Soviet era.
rshowalter
- 07:31am Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1364
of 1366) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I have a personal problem, and I'd like to raise it. It involves
a difficulty I have -- that I work alone, without staffing. It is
related to the notion of "sending in clear" -- but is largely a
personal problem of mine. And yet, for me to do duties that I find
compelling, I need some help -- help, just here, that could come, in
an open way, most gracefully from Russia.
Due to unanticipated economic dislocations in my country,
enterprises that set up free e-mail boxes, supported by ad revenue,
are folding, or being reorganized. As a result, several email boxes
that I have (boxes that CIA has had adresses and passwords for since
September 2000) containing some 450 entries in all, are to be
destroyed on March 27th. Due, I suspect but cannot know, to the
action of my government, I am blocked from accessing these boxes to
retrieve files dear to my heart, and perhaps of value to my personal
economic interest and personal safety.
Even if I were not blocked, the process of retrieving the files
-which is basicall to copy each on on a "word pad" like word
processor, is laborious. Because, in my view, the statistically
expected number of deaths from nuclear destruction is about 1.6
million deaths per day, I'm reluctant to spare the two days it might
take to do this retrieval job. Anyone with access to a computer
could do it. Would there be anyone in the Russian embassy who might
clean these boxes for me, sending me a copy, sending Lunarchick a
copy, and sending a copy to any US government agency deemed proper?
The Russians would have my permission to use any information in
these boxes, in ways that interested them -- my guess is that most
of the material is of personal interest only.
Lunarchick might countermand this request, if she wishes too,
through any channels she thinks right.
If it were possible to do this through the good offices of
Russia, I'd be able to work on things that might serve the cause of
peace more effectively. It might also, I believe serve as an object
lesson about the uses of OPEN communication -- including some of the
moral usages that make sense, simply because of the complexity of
the circumstances involved.
If I got a "yes" - I could get the box names and passwords to
you. I'd be most grateful if you could help me in this way.
rshowalter
- 07:35am Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1365
of 1366) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
It might, I believe, be an interesting demonstration of the
obsolescence of certain usages.
It might make another point -- one that becomes compelling in our
complicated world.
There is an expression "judge not, lest ye be not judged."
That's impractical. As social beings, we all judge, and are
judged, and we must be.
Even so, there is another point, that I believe ought to get more
emphasis than it does:
"Judge not, unless you have the time to do it
decently, and with a reasonable chance of being right."
rshowalter
- 07:42am Mar 23, 2001 EST (#1366
of 1366) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
rshowalter
"Science News Poetry" 2/14/01 7:18am
We'll show That even when you try To communicate "in clear" It
ain't easy
And to eavesdrop .. so you're sure of what you heard IS
IMPOSSIBLE ! ! ! !
People are too afraid to "give themselves away" and so erect
walls static defenses of lies
Clear's safer ! If you're talking in clear and overheard by
someone who doesn't know the unspoken stuff
They'll say, "Couldn't attack these folks" "They know their
territory -- they'd wrong foot me in a minute
"But I do see enough, to know this for sure" "Just now, they
ain't attacking me."
Just the thing both sides need to know to step back from
destruction.
. . . . Clear's safer ! We got e-mail transcripts, as demos that
prove it .
Anybody wanna see? Some CIA folks saw those e-mails with my
permission, and my partner's, too I think maybe they backed off a
little bit after they saw them.
a lot more people ought to know how safe it is to send in CLEAR
If more folks knew we could all lie less learn more and have more
fun.
In clear: Lying is more dangerous than people think, and soaks
up more attention than people know. We can do less of it. We can
send in clear - the message, almost always, will be peaceful. And
complex cooperation, now so often terminated with deceptive
sequences, could happen more often.
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