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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 01:04pm Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1185
of 1188)
Russian Col. Gen. Leonid Ivashov, the head of the Defense
Ministry's international department, said he believed certain forces
were interested in "a permanent state of crisis in Yugoslavia." - http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=169340
rshowalter
- 01:37pm Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1186
of 1188) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Look, Ted Turner founded CNN, and he's an enormously powerful
man. He's so concerned with nuclear disarmament that he just pledged
250 million dollars of his own money (and Turner CARES about his
money) to promote disarmament. He didn't just order CNN to
propagandize for peace.
He couldn't.
There are rules. You need to know them.
rshowalter
- 01:43pm Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1187
of 1188) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If you think I'd have a reasonable chance of picking up the
telephone, and getting to Ted Turner, you can think again about
that, too. People have to vouch for other people. That's how it
works.
Within the rules as they are, there's room for enormous progress,
but there ARE conventions, and without some help, I'm in a box.
Here's a hint -- Steve Kline couldn't get his key paper in flow
visualization so much as published (much less widely discussed)
until some people with power (it happened to be the Air Force in
this particular case) FORCED people to check core facts.
The impasse would have NEVER closed otherwise.
And Steve Kline and I working hard, haven't been able to get some
core math checked YET . (For the last 6-8 weeks you might quibble
with that - but it has been a fact, for a decade.) And under our
systems rules, people in the New York Times, trying hard ....
COULDN'T get the checking either.
If you understood why such impasses happen, you'd have a lot
better chance figuring out how to get Russia, and the whole world,
out of an insane nuclear and conventional military situation that
needs to be confronted in ways that can work.
rshowalter
- 01:45pm Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1188
of 1188) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Steve Kliine was boxed, on that flow visualization issue, for
fourteen years.
Once a fight was set up -- it took weeks for the new paradigm to
dominate the field.
You'd learn something, studying how that worked.
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