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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

almarst-2001 - 08:34pm Mar 18, 2001 EST (#1155 of 1161)

Gulf Arms Bazaar Opens for Business - http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/international/ap168.htm

almarst-2001 - 08:44pm Mar 18, 2001 EST (#1156 of 1161)

In my view, the conspiracy is the case, when the action taken by a legitimate agency or organization is falsely justified and explained while in fact, it is taken to benefit the "hidden string manipulators" and has nothing to do with an official reasonong.

For exmple, a powerful and influential Oil company may ask the US goverment to overturn the legitimate goverment of a small country which is "unfriendly" to its interests and is not willing to give an access to oil fields.

almarst-2001 - 11:50pm Mar 18, 2001 EST (#1157 of 1161)

Massive Spy-Satellite Program to Cost Billions - http://www.latimes.com/news/state/updates/lat_spysat010318.htm

German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/17679.html

rshowalter - 06:53am Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1158 of 1161)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Those are helpful responses, and I agree with what you say in 1156 - though there is more to say. Will be back with more by 10:11 NewYork time.

lunarchick - 07:26am Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1159 of 1161)
lunarchick@www.com

From above link (latimes)

'The satellites will be farther out in space and harder to detect than the massive spy probes that currently orbit the Earth.'

Big Brother is watching you ... from a distance.

That regular satallites can be 'knocked out' has been a source of concern, with conventional communication systems being further developed to ensure communication if this were to happen.

Commerical satellites: the solution is to make all Nation States shareholders into all communication systems and thus ensure the Satallites.

The Nation States: in order to keep peace within the world, there need to be moves to ensure that people within all countries have 'opportunities' and 'rights' and are recognised. The wealth of commercial enterprises relies on 'paperwork' and 'products' and 'policies' being current. It would seem that nations also have to have legislation that is 'up to date' and inclusive.

PEACE is PAPERWORK!

NON-PEACE is outdated and poor legislation.

So, if peace is paperwork, can this paperwork be applied on a universal basis -- rather than an ad hoc country by country basis.

It would be appropriate to examine the progress in relevant paperwork/legislation in various countries. And blocks of countries. Demanding a comparison between current and future positioning of these blocks in relation to the harmony of their composition.

Is the blue print for the EC better, worse, or just the same; as the blue print for the USA, India, China etc ?

What is the blue print for harmony, wealth, peace and sucess ... this might be an area for investment as opposed to investing in 'war-metal' that actually just delays the implementation of a solution along with a massive human toll of dead and partly-living with low life quality of those who are unfortunatly wounded - physically and psychologically.

rshowalter - 07:32am Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1160 of 1161)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

To make some points about "conspiracies;" "paradigm conflict;" and my own credentials, in a way a bit off from intense emotion, and in a way that can be checked, I'll be taking quotes from Chapter 1 of

- Self-Sustaining Mechanisms of Wall Turbulence R.L. Pandon, ed, Advances in Fluid Mechanics --Computational Mechanics Publications -- Southhampton, UK

S.J.Kline finished that chapter within about a week of the time when he wrote a recommendation letter to me http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/klinerec not much more than a month before he died in 1997.

It deals with a "war" that was ugly, that involved conspiracies, efforts at "academic extermination" - much unnecessary loss, but nonetheless with a workable, humanly reasonable, and technically productive resolution. I'll be typing the part that matter here, but if you happen to be able to refer to a copy, it may make the passages, and their socio-technical context, more real.

rshowalter - 07:33am Mar 19, 2001 EST (#1161 of 1161)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

I'd like now to quote from Mirriam-Webster on www.britannica.com:

con·spir·a·cy ---- 1 : the act of conspiring together 2 a : an agreement among conspirators b : a group of conspirators synonym see PLOT

conspiracy of silence : a secret agreement to keep silent about an occurrence, situation, or subject especially in order to promote or protect selfish interests

plot ---- 3 : the plan or main story of a literary work 4 : a secret plan for accomplishing a usually evil or unlawful end : INTRIGUE 5 : a graphic representation (as a chart) - plot·less /-l&s/ adjective - plot·less·ness noun synonyms PLOT, INTRIGUE, MACHINATION, CONSPIRACY, CABAL mean a plan secretly devised to accomplish an evil or treacherous end. PLOT implies careful foresight in planning a complex scheme <an assassination plot>. INTRIGUE suggests secret underhanded maneuvering in an atmosphere of duplicity <backstairs intrigue>. MACHINATION implies a contriving of annoyances, injuries, or evils by indirect means <the machinations of a party boss>. CONSPIRACY implies a secret agreement among several people usually involving treason or great treachery . CABAL typically applies to political intrigue involving persons of some eminence . synonym see in addition PLAN

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