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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 06:18am Mar 14, 2001 EST (#982
of 984) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The questions that can be asked about the Osprey program are
similar in significant ways to questions that can be asked about
very many other military procurement programs.
They can be asked about our nuclear weapons deployments, and
stategies, again, and again, and again.
Military people must coerce each other to stand and die. They
must, to do their jobs, conceal and mislead anyone they can possibly
regard as a potential enemy. And they are trained, for reasons built
into the logic of war, to consider almost anyone a potential enemy.
For some purposes, military officers in one service regard all
members of other services as "the enemy." Both the public and the
Congress are often treated as "the enemy."
Under these circumstances, when military people say "trust
us" on a matter of public interest, there is reason to ask how
they are to be checked, and what the balance of the public interest
is.
rshowalter
- 06:25am Mar 14, 2001 EST (#983
of 984) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
One doesn't need to question the extraordinary competence,
discipline, and courage shown throughout the USMC. Or shown by the
other services.
Still, these are human organizations, specialized for a purpose,
and not infallible, either operationally or morally. We are all of
us "a little lower than the angels" and military people are
no exception.
Before one accepts that military people ought not be questioned
about matters of honor, one ought to look at the record.
Two references that are important, I believe, are
DERELICTION OF DUTY: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the lies that led to Vietnam by
H.R. McMaster
and
DARK SUN: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb by Richard
Rhodes.
rshowalter
- 06:31am Mar 14, 2001 EST (#984
of 984) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
People involved with the Osprey project must have known, for
many years now, that the Osprey might, and probably does, have a
problem with a fluid mechanical instability.
That instability might not have been predictable when the design
was first proposed. Even so, the instability may be a fatal,
unfixable flaw in the design. By now I'd say probably is.
With the military usages and contractor incentives in place, what
real human being, in a real circumstance, can actually check, and
take right action, about this?
Steve Kline and others at the Stanford University department of
Mechanical Engineering, probably the best academic fluid mechanical
shop in the world, have discussed the matter of vortex instability
of the Osprey rotors off and on for years. And they have been in
very close touch with engineers at Boeing who understood the issue
very well, and didn't have to be told about it, based on what they
knew.
If somebody could get me an authoritative military officer,
trained in fluid mechanics, or a senior engineer at Boeing, we could
discuss this. A discussion, on videotape, available on the internet,
would, I believe, make the technical situation, and the technical
risks, very clear.
*****
The issue is important because Osprey is important --- but
to me, the issue is more important because of what it shows about
the technical fallibility of our nuclear arrangements.
And the risks that are being imposed on the entire world,
more-or-less knowingly, or by negligence.
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