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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:03pm Mar 12, 2001 EST (#951
of 956) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
That's a very good question.
I don't know who you are, but you are a very sagacious person. If
you could do so (and I'll not expect it, but I'll hope for it) could
you list any coherent and believable ideas you have about the
answer?
The only idea that I can come up with, that fits what I know,
raises questions about the legitimacy of Mr.Bush and his
administration.
Does ANYBODY have a coherent reason for a missile defense system
that - considered as a system, can't possibly work?
almarstel2001
- 01:03pm Mar 12, 2001 EST (#952
of 956)
Robert,
Sorry but my English isn't good enough to know what "sagacious
person" means. Still hope its not somthing terribly shamefull;)
As for coherent set of ideas... As far as I remember, Clinton did
not reject the idea of NMD either. So it has to do with somting
else, including the prevealing american mentality of ultimate power
of money to buy enything and to solve any problem. And the constant
"adds compain" just continuelsy reminds us just how much "joy"
awaits us once we get this new "toy". Just like this bottle of a
Coke;) Can you think of anyone other the "Coca Cola Corp" as a main
beneficiary?
In my view, the main interests ($) are of the military-industrial
complex (sorry for repeating this as a slogan) and some influential
entrenched since Cold War Washington think-tanks who have to justify
their existance and keep the political influence by inventing the
new enemies after the Cold War. The main question they probaly ask
is the one, Mad. Allbright asked while insisting on bombing the
Serbia: "What for do we have such a fine military if we can't use
it?" Indeed, the 30% of a trillion $ budget military has to have
some purpose and justification. And its not the defending of the
American soil...
So, how can you justify all this conventional might, or just a
thread of using it, which become absolete against even small country
posessing even a few nuclear ballistic missils?
Another reason may be the one raised by Putin: Since after the
Cold War, America is loosing its importants to its alias as an
ultimate protector via NATO, the monopolised missils defense system
may be the answer. Againg, it will require the credible thread to
exist (even created if so needed;) for its justification.
In my view there is the whole set of related questions,
including, among others, the need to maintain and even expand the
NATO and the need to maintaing so large and costly offensive
military around the glob.
Eventually it all comes down to the basic - the role the America
wants to play as the only and ultimate superpower, the means and
tools by which this role may be fulfilled and, most importantly -
WHO WILL BENEFIT MOST FROM THIS POLICY?
rshowalter
- 01:24pm Mar 12, 2001 EST (#953
of 956) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Very interesting !
It seems to me that, if FACTS were established, the US military
rationale would be indefensible. It would have to change.
Or, if the position actually was coherent, and something that
could stand the light of day, other people might come to understand
it, so we'd all be safer.
I believe that if the American people actually understood that
Russia and China actually are afraid of, and in effect, being
threatend by, first strikes, they'd put a stop to it.
I don't think you're looking at a coherent policy of the American
people, or of the American government that exists in public, either.
You're looking at the products of a scared, greedy, very old,
corrupt conspiracy that needs, not only for the outside world's
sake, but for America's sake, to be uncovered.
It seems to me that it should be entirely practical to do this,
in reasonably short order. I've got a suggestion about half drafted
-- only a "thought experiment" -- but I do believe that it might
suggest the elements of a solution to the basic problem -- which is
uncovering hidden facts. The key point of the plan is basic. It is
openness, and the presence of effective umpiring mechanisms,
to show, to all reasonable people, what the facts are.
almarstel2001
- 01:28pm Mar 12, 2001 EST (#954
of 956)
Actually, there is some very funny and annoing aspect of the
America's Cold War "victory" - there is a very little "treasure"
found. Akin what may feel an all importand triumphant idealistic
General, coming back to his country after defeating distant enemies,
happily proclaimnig that there is no more enemies from now on, just
to discover that in this case, no one needs him any more. His
importance diminished, his role and the future in fluke. The
"friends" are already dealing with who used to be enemy for their
selfish benefit and even, his wife alrady left him during his
absence;)
The pitty thing, once the job is declared successfully complete,
the layoff may be just around the corner;)
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