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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:13pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#902
of 903) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
So why aren't basic facts checked? Why aren't basic questions,
such as those in almarstel2001
3/9/01 4:59pm answered?
Ive come to wonder if the answers make sense, in terms of the
interests of the world, or the interests of the United States.
Could people be acting irrationally, because theyve done
things that they cannot admit having done? Or are they acting
rationally, in their private interests, but against the interests of
the nation and the world, because they have done things that they
cannot admit having done?
There may be other explanations, but that is an explanation that
occurs to me.
Nuclear weapons should have come down, long sense. The
Generals responsible for the weapons may feel that most keenly of
all. Here is a text adaptation of CNNs Special Report, REHEARSING
DOOMSDAY... which aired Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 10
p.m. EDT.
As for conventional weapons, I don't see the need for a US
expenditure 10 times larger than the military budgets of all
our potential enemies.
Perhaps there is a reason beyond the desire of people doing jobs
to keep on doing them
I think a strong, effective US military force is essential. In rshowalter
2/19/01 12:29pm I asked:
" How about promoting the peace, comfort and
safety of the United States? In a world that is stable, and with
our military functioning in ways that make Americans proud, and
other nations respectful, according to American ideals? ...... For
that, the military budget might be worth every penny. But by that
standard, there is thinking to do, and new beauty must be found,
where ugliness now exists.
The defense we have now seems maladapted, and not worth the
money. Ugliness, in the sense of disproportion, is what now exists.
almarstel2001 asks a good question. It is a question not
only for other nations, but for citizens of the United States, as
well. Some of the things being done seem so ugly, in the sense of
disproportionate, that I sometimes wonder if people are acting in
their private interests, but against the real interests of this
nation and the world.
rshowalter
- 07:30pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#903
of 903) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The appearance of impropriety certainly exists. Semantic usages
and evasions that would be hard to explain to a school class seem
well entrenched. And the amounts of money involved are amply large
to produce either conscious or unconscious corruption, or both. Elder
Bush in Big G.O.P. Cast Toiling for Top Equity Firm .... by By
LESLIE WAYNE ..... NYT . . . . March 5, 2001
That equity firm specializes in the defense industry, which
depends on government decisions. And reports say the the average
partner in the firm may have made more than a hundred million
dollars from their roles as "investment advisors."
One also wonders about other coincidences. In August and
September of last year, there were moves in oil prices that did not
seem well explained at the time. Could communications from the
Carlyle Group or similar organizations have been misinterpreted,
to produce an inadvertent result? They might be blameless. But as a
matter of mechanics, they would have been well placed to produce
such an inadvertent result. One wonders how clear foreign
dignitaries are about the distinction between such a group, staffed
as it is, and the federal government, or the Republican
party.
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