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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:28pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#898
of 903) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
There are a lot of angry people around, and plenty of dangerous
ones -- some with very bad dispositions. We aren't going to get out
of this mess with an orgiastic conversion to mutual love and
respect. We have to be careful, and wary, and make peace a step at a
time. And when it REALLY counts (and in the field of nuclear weapons
control, it really counts) we need to accomodate the distrust
that is there, and has to be there , rather than maintain the
fiction that we can "trust" each other.
almarstel2001
- 04:59pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#899
of 903)
rshowalter
3/9/01 4:28pm
Again, Why the US has to maintain a 300bn/year military? Why all
those military bases are maintained around the glob? Why all this
new aircraft cariers are still built full speed? Those are not
defensive wearpons. They are profoundly OFFENSIVE!
rshowalter
- 07:06pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#900
of 903) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Almarstel2001 , you raise reasonable concerns, and I share
some of them. In rshowalter
1/9/01 6:40am I wrote this:
"Some months ago, I made contact with a man I've
known a while, and respect, who is, at the least, "well connected"
with the CIA. We discussed a number of things - among them, my
view that they have mistakes in the math they are using for
guidance and control that probably, in my view, eliminate any good
chance of their system ever working, especially in multiple attack
circumstances. He told me he consulted with some of his
associates, and asked questions that lead me to think it probable
that he did. Contacts went so far that I gave this man information
about e-mail accounts that let him or his people monitor my e-mail
-something I told him I didn't like, but that they could do. I
have reason to believe this monitoring has occurred.
"This man was also given an invitation to
accompany me if he wished, with associates if he chose, to
meetings I was proposing to have with an influential
non-governmental organization.
In rshowalter
2/19/01 12:29pm I wrote about the experience some more. .... I
had reactions from a CIA contact.
"I made contact with this man, setting out the
proposal for nuclear but not conventional disarmament set out in
#266, rshowalt
9/25/00 7:32am , giving the agency permission to monitor some
email accounts I shared with Dawn Riley, and offering other
cooperation.
"After staff discussions, he got back to me. It
was clear that a major problem his staff colleagues had was to be
sure that I was proposing nuclear but not
conventional disarmament. In the discussion, it seemed
that these staff colleagues did not have a clear sense of what the
US military establishment was in existence for.
In rshowalter
1/9/01 6:40am I also wrote this:
"To check the S-K math efficiently, they'd have to
talk to me. They've acted in such a way as to indicate to me that
they take my work somewhat seriously, and yet they have not done
so. It would be easy for them to do so. I'd cooperate totally, and
they have reason to know it.
"Perhaps I'm biased (no doubt I am) but I've come
to doubt their confidence in their StarWars work, and their public
statements about it.
"In terms of my own experience, and interpreting
what I read in the news, it seems to me that they aren't
conducting a serious, public spirited effort to defend the country
in a workable technical way, but are doing something else.
rshowalter
- 07:07pm Mar 9, 2001 EST (#901
of 903) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Since the time, as experience has accumulated, my doubts have
been reinforced. In rshowalter
2/14/01 7:36am I spoke of how the proposal I made in #266 -- rshowalt
9/25/00 7:32am hinged on an insight in cryptography -- and Dawn
Riley and I did a demonstration.
That demonstration extended from lunarchick
"Science News Poetry" 2/14/01 5:57am to rshowalter
"Science News Poetry" 2/14/01 1:26pm
There were stresses involved in this demonstration that I felt
should not have occurred.
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