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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:29am Feb 24, 2001 EST (#775
of 780) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Here are some excellent sources, eloquent, I believe, in their
ugly combination of hard effort and frustration, testifying to how
hard people have tried, and are trying, to get to nuclear
disarmament on the basis of the false assumption that trust, on
these matters, is really possible.
THE ACRONYM INSTITUTE
Disarmament Issues
in the UK Parliament .... by Nicola Butler
Disarmament
Diplomacy, published since January 1996, is the successor journal to
Nuclear Proliferation News.
Editors
Introduction...Disarmament Diplomacy -- Issue No 53
Breaking the CD
Impasse: Statements by Vladimir Petrovsky And Rebecca Johnson
....Disarmament Diplomacy -- Issue No 53
rshowalter
- 09:17am Feb 24, 2001 EST (#776
of 780) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A lot of good people, from many nations, have been wearing their
hearts out, trying to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons, from the
time of Hiroshima on.
People know how precarious things are, and how large the risks
are.
Secular people, all over the world, know that.
Religious people of all kinds, of all faiths, all over the world
know that.
People also know that the "fail safe" equipment to which we
entrust our lives is far from reliable, and has never been reliable.
That knowledge is so widely held, that competent pastors can preach
sermons, assuming that everyone knows this. Everyone does.
rshowalter
- 09:25am Feb 24, 2001 EST (#777
of 780) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I have the priviledge of posting a sermon, When the
Foundations are Shaking by Dr. James Slatton of the
River Road Church (Baptist) in Richmond, Va. - a church I
grew up in, a church where my parents have both been deacons, and
active in other ways. This church is much like the one Jimmy Carter
goes to, theologically, though it is much richer, and more
republican, and perhaps basically more conservative. River Road
Church has resigned from the Southern Baptist Convention, for
various reasons, but is well within the conservative Protestant
tradition. I have deep intellectual, moral, and personal respect for
the people at River Road Church.
I believe that most people of good will, including exalted ones,
could benefit from the 21 minutes this sermon takes.
WHEN THE
FOUNDATIONS ARE SHAKING ..... by James Slatton . . . . available in
RealMedia, Quicktime, and Windows Media7 formats
I think any military leader, or political leader, who ever
attends any kind of religious service, anywhere in the world, could
relate to this work.
I think any member of the clergy, of any faith or creed, anywhere
in the world, could relate to this work. I wish religious people in
a position of leadership WOULD listen to it.
People of a more secular view might want to skip ahead to 9:27
in the sermon . Thereafter, it is a tribute to a Russian
colonel, who kept nuclear war from destroying us all, during the
Reagan administration. And a teaching of lessons that most people
know, and live well by, that are important to the preservation of
our world. I believe that people of enough good will to be human
would be interested, and moved, by this part of the sermon, no
matter how secular their views.
The notion is abroad that no politician can do much about
nuclear weapons, because they cannot get their populations behind
them. They think so because, when people are surveyed, no one wants
to talk about nuclear weapons.
This is the wrong answer. To deal with this threat, people in a
position to influence events must face it. So the matter has to be
realistically discussed.
James Slatton's sermon offers a triumphant example of how
possible and practical such realistic discussion is.
James Slatton is a fine man and an effective clergyman. But he is
not uniquely able or influential. There are many, many clergymen,
all over the world, of many faiths, who could, and often do, say
similar things, in similarly powerful ways.
The motivation for missile defense largely comes from concern
about the seriousness of the threat from nuclear weapons.
Approaching the problem with care, and a search for disciplined
beauty, we should be able to make the world a far safer and more
humane place than it now is. That is Bush's basic objective, I
believe, and we need to carefully consider proper means to
actually achieve that end.
lunarchick
- 06:40pm Feb 24, 2001 EST (#778
of 780) lunarchick@www.com
Wimmin
work for peace
mister_shadow
- 12:19am Feb 25, 2001 EST (#779
of 780)
It's simple folks.
It's much, much cheaper to build decoys and countermeasures. It's
much cheaper to simply build more missles to overwhelm the defense.
The pentagon's money would be better spent on other things, like
better training and modernizing conventional weapons.
lunarchick
- 08:01am Feb 25, 2001 EST (#780
of 780) lunarchick@www.com
'money would be better spent on other things, like better
training and modernizing conventional weapons'
----
Why not go back to basics and ask what the US is really trying to
achieve?
----
Peace over the Empire ... that ultimately is the Empire of the
world-mind may be best achieved via other vehicles and domains.
Salt worked for one empire, religion another, pop-culture a
different empire.
The empire to conquor is the mind of tomorrow .. mastery of which
demands advancement via R&D in areas that will be of future
'value'.
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