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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:13pm Feb 21, 2001 EST (#728
of 732) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If you're at all sensitive, and work at it, you can detect fear
in people's faces during conversations. Discussions of matters
nuclear reliably elicits fear responses that are pretty intense.
Want to slow down a conversation? Slip in something connected
with nuclear war.
FEAR and UGLINESS are associated with, and stain,
everything about nuclear weapons in most people's eyes.
Some very competent movie makers, notably those who do the
"James Bond" series of films, know how well and easily this
works. Nuclear weapons equal maximum terror, for almost everybody.
Nuclear weapons are also so threatening that they can be used to
comfortably justify all sorts of violent behavior, including killing
for fun, and sex of a very exploitive kind.
Problem is, this aversion to all matters nuclear becomes an
aversion to looking at problems. So that incredibly indefensible and
reckless patterns of action, and sequences of escalation, happen
again and again. And have for more than half a century.
rshowalter
- 12:16pm Feb 21, 2001 EST (#729
of 732) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Nuclear tactics, on both sides, rely on deception, and must.
Bluff is essential - the only possible "win" is a totally
devastating first strike that catches the victim unaware. The
deceptions, that apply to almost everything involved, at the levels
of strategy, tactics and technical capability, go unchallenged and
undiscussed.
Here's a telling example. The US Military refuses to let any
elected official except for the President so much as LOOK at its
targeting maps of Russia (a point made in the documentary
Rehearsing Armageddon ) - because "seeing is believing. "
(The importance of actually seeing, in order to fully know
was noted by a mortician on the op ed page yesterday: We Should
Witness the Death of McVeigh ...R. Lynch. ) The military doesn't
want the reality of our nuclear targeting to sink in. The elected
officials are so cowed by fear of matters nuclear that the military
gets away with this. When a few Senators or House members, in charge
of reviewing policy, ask to see this very basic information, the
military stonewalls, and gets away with it.
rshowalter
- 12:18pm Feb 21, 2001 EST (#730
of 732) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Our current nuclear situation is ugly , the situation is
worse than it looks, the notion that the controls are well set up
and able to meet the flexible challenges in the real world is false,
and aversion to look at the reality makes documentaries such as
CNNs .... REHEARSING ARMAGEDDON almost unwatchable for
most people.
People who think about the unthinkable invoke rational man
arguments repeatedly -- but the human responses almost all people
show towards nuclear weapons are well beyond the rational.
Among defense scholars, there is not, even today, a consensus
about how much of the Cold War was a mistake. Communist
Bloc Expansion in the Early Cold War: Conflicting Realisms
...Revisionisms exist on BASICS
Fear of looking at nuclear matters frustrates debate - something
that was illustrated vividly when a very distinguished group of
people rshowalt
10/4/00 5:08am gathered, at the time of the presidential debate
last October in Boston, and tried to raise the issue of nuclear
peril. lunarchick
10/3/00 9:23pm They were dismissed, and it was done easily,
because "no one wanted to hear" about the unpleasant subject of
nuclear weapons. Many of these same people felt that, once
Rehearsing Armageddon aired, there would be an outcry to
reduce nuclear danger. There was no such outcry. People are
paralyzed by fear, and as a result, good actions that would
otherwise be possible can't occur. Breaking through this barrier is
essential if we are to ask politicians to take beautiful,
safe action on nuclear policy.
dirac_10
- 12:26pm Feb 21, 2001 EST (#731
of 732)
mhunter20 - 10:00am Feb 20, 2001 EST (#721 of 729)
You bring up an important point that is rarely mentioned anymore.
What if a Russian, or whatever, missle went off by accident? Or
by some terrorist bribing some starving Russian?
Because we have both performed the miracle of not screwing up all
these years, does not mean we won't in the future. No axiomatic
system is complete. There's always a way to screw it up.
One thing's for sure, if a Russian missle goes beserk and heads
for NY, no one will be talking about how the MD cost too much.
Everyone will be wishing we had spent more.
The amount of money they are talking about spending is
chickenfeed.
rshowalter
- 12:46pm Feb 21, 2001 EST (#732
of 732) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If you want an objection to the IDEA of missile defense, you
wont get it from me. I think it is a beautiful idea, that would
be worth all the negotiating inconvenience it involved, if only it
could be made to work.
My concerns are with getting the situation we have, with the
capabilities we have, under safe control. And my opinions arent very
different from those expressed by Secretary of State Colin Powell.
But there may be some other options - reframings can do a lot.
For instance, Thomas Friedman's suggestion in his Op Ed column
yesterday - if it could really be implemented, might RADIACALLY
reduce danger, in an area of clear national concern, pretty
gracefully.
That might work and be relatively inexpensive.
As opposed to "infinite cost" solutions, that combine very high
pricetags with 0 functionality.
Sam Nunn and Senator Richard Lugar's efforts on Russian nuclear
safety may have saved all our lives, and Ted Turner's new
foundation, working to increase nuclear safety, is very important.
Finding other ways to get control are very important. We should
look actively for them. And I'm encouraged that people are doing
it.
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