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Nazi engineer and Disney space advisor Wernher Von Braun helped
give us rocket science. Today, the legacy of military aeronautics
has many manifestations from SDI to advanced ballistic missiles. Now
there is a controversial push for a new missile defense system. What
will be the role of missile defense in the new geopolitical climate
and in the new scientific era?
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mhunter20
- 09:52am Jan 30, 2001 EST (#626
of 636)
rshowalter
1/29/01 8:48pm
Tesla may have been wrong about the death ray and even about the
magnifying transmitter. The link I posted stated that a letter was
sent to the government concerning the death ray. The link may not be
accurate.
Blow up a huge forest on the other side of the
world BY ACCIDENT ?
It is not logical to ignore this possibility. Tesla's inventions
are numerous and many are used today. He is honored by scientists,
who named the units of magnetic field strength Teslas (Webers per
meter squared, 10^4 Gauss). In his autobiography Tesla claimed that
he successfully tested the magnifying transmitter, which he called
his greatest invention.
The world isn't that easy. And because it isn't
easy, VERY hard jobs, like missile defense, may be, as a practical
matter, impossible.
I agree with you. Destroying an ICBM in flight is extremely
difficult and destroying a fleet of incoming ICBMs, hidden among
decoys and painted to avoid destruction, may be practically
impossible.
rshowalter
- 02:15pm Jan 30, 2001 EST (#627
of 636) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We're agreed, and I should have taken Tesla's own depth of
conviction more tactfully in mind in making my comments.
I'm afraid, like a lot of people, I fight a little too quickly.
I'm trying to learn more tact, but I'm finding that it doesn't come
so easily for me. Thanks.
bigred152
- 08:46am Jan 31, 2001 EST (#628
of 636)
A point is all that you can score, when two tribes go to war
~ http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/trianglesquare/273/lyrics/2_tribes.htm
~ http://www.geocities.com/~mikerein/80s_music/F/frankie-two.txt
bigred152
- 09:45am Jan 31, 2001 EST (#629
of 636)
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bigred152
- 09:48am Jan 31, 2001 EST (#630
of 636)
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the World'
~ http://www.hep.ucsb.edu/people/hnn/physicists.html
mhunter20
- 11:19am Jan 31, 2001 EST (#631
of 636)
From today's NYT letters to the editor:
A Futile Missile Shield
President Bush's missile defense system will not protect us
against the real threats from rogue nations. An attack will not come
in a missile; it will come in a suitcase.
A terrorist government won't bother firing a nuclear missile at
us when it can just smuggle a nuclear bomb across the border in some
luggage that could be built with far more ease than a missile silo.
This tactic would be safer for the rogue government, since it would
be extremely difficult for us to track the bomb's origin, and we
wouldn't know where to begin a retaliation.
Why spend billions of dollars on a system that shoots down
treaties but not missiles?
Damon Elder, Eugene, Ore.
dirac_10
- 12:25am Feb 1, 2001 EST (#632
of 636)
Well, yes, and perhaps only a mason jar. But there is a reason
that the big boys still have missles.
And our spies of all kinds may just not be as stupid as they
seem. They just might know a little something. You can't be sure.
It's a fool's bet, for this one, they would blow their cover. And
knowing about the plan to bring in in the mason jar would elicit the
same response as ICBM's. And the result would be fast and certain.
It's an insanely dangerous game we play with MAD. Every one has
gotten used to it. Either we are very lucky, or someone needs some
congratulations.
I remember reading Feynman talking about right after the war. He
wondered why people were still building bridges since everything
would be destroyed.
Yet it didn't happen.
But it will eventually. A mistake if nothing else.
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