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Nazi engineer and Disney space advisor Wernher Von Braun helped
give us rocket science. Today, the legacy of military aeronautics
has many manifestations from SDI to advanced ballistic missiles. Now
there is a controversial push for a new missile defense system. What
will be the role of missile defense in the new geopolitical climate
and in the new scientific era?
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rshowalter
- 06:40am Jan 9, 2001 EST (#550
of 553) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Note -- I did not say that we should abandon all work on missile
defense. I WOULD say, that we ought not to commit prototyping
resources, as often as we now do, before we have a design that
"works on paper" to reasonably high standards.
Now, unless I have it wrong, people are "going into
engineering labs, playing around, and hoping something turns
up."
Committing serious resources to projects that look on paper like
they won't work.
Am I being unfair? I could be - but from my distance, a lot of
the work looks like that.
I also think that people who are looking to get right answers, in
a program where mistakes are so obviously fatal, and where things
have not gone well, ought to be actively looking for mistakes - so
that the mistakes can be fixed, and progress can be made.
If mistakes are found, then hope of success in the future
increases.
The system isn't working that way. Some months ago, I made
contact with a man I've known a while, and respect, who is, at the
least, "well connected" with the CIA. We discussed a number of
things - among them, my view that they have mistakes in the math
they are using for guidance and control that probably, in my view,
eliminate any good chance of their system ever working, especially
in multiple attack circumstances. He told me he consulted with some
of his associates, and asked questions that lead me to think it
probable that he did. Contacts went so far that I gave this man
information about e-mail accounts that let him or his people monitor
my e-mail -something I told him I didn't like, but that they could
do. I have reason to believe this monitoring has occurred.
This man was also given an invitation to accompany me if he
wished, with associates if he chose, to meetings I was proposing to
have with an influential non-governmental organization.
To check the S-K math efficiently, they'd have to talk to me.
They've acted in such a way as to indicate to me that they take my
work somewhat seriously, and yet they have not done so. It would be
easy for them to do so. I'd cooperate totally, and they have reason
to know it.
Perhaps I'm biased (no doubt I am) but I've come to doubt their
confidence in their StarWars work, and their public statements about
it.
In terms of my own experience, and interpreting what I read in
the news, it seems to me that they aren't conducting a serious,
public spirited effort to defend the country in a workable technical
way, but are doing something else.
*****
The S-K math is getting checked, and it has now been some while
since anyone I've been in contact with has actively disputed it. I'm
getting some pro-active responses, and think that, just now, things
are going as "a reader of The New York Times" might hope and expect.
If I'm wrong, that will be shown. If I'm right, that will be shown,
too. I'm trying to "work through channels" insofar as possible under
the circumstances.
If I'm right, as I believe, I hope the S-K math can be used to
improve our chances of putting together a workable missile defense.
I wish that would have been done some time ago.
armel7
- 01:09pm Jan 9, 2001 EST (#551
of 553) Science/Health Forums Host
Great discussion, folks. I just wanted to let you know about the
new Times Science section. Plenty of good stuff. As you were.
Your host,<br. Michael Scott Armel
rshowalter
- 03:02pm Jan 9, 2001 EST (#552
of 553) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Wonderful stuff, in fact!
If, by chance, I sometimes seem a bit "anti-establishment" -
well, I looked at that new and improved section, and felt distinctly
PRO establishment.
I'll salute the people who put it together, anytime.
rshowalter
- 04:16am Jan 10, 2001 EST (#553
of 553) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Republicans plan huge missile shield Special report:
George W Bush's America The Guardian
Martin Kettle in Washington , Tuesday January 9, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,419676,00.html
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