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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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palousereader
- 08:55am Aug 10, 2000 EST (#207
of 11863)
"U.S. Missile Plan Could Reportedly Provoke China". I had to
doublecheck the date on this story- reads like a repeat of various
articles over the past weeks. As the article says,
"Although the report reaffirms what China and Russia have
publicly said in opposition to the system..."
Any new "detailed analysis" of likely responses has probably
already been played out in this and other forums.
To me, the least persuasive argument is that this will change the
balance of power. The acquisition of nuclear technology by more and
more small nations is doing that already. It's one thing to nuke a
bully of equal size if/when they attack us; it's a different thing
to nuke a tiny nation whose citizens are probably unaware and unable
to stop their government's aggression. We can barely defend economic
sanctions against those governments now- how difficult will it be to
justify annihilation- to ourselves or the world.
The best argument is the Maginot Line idea (above-richr11b) that
any defense will be eventually overrun with better offensive
technology. True, but as I've said before, if a shared system can
put things on hold for even 100 years, maybe we'll come to our
senses by then. And in a sense, our nuclear arsenal is itself
defensive- a defense of retaliatory threat; it is now in the process
of being rendered obsolete- we have to change, move on. Total
disarmament would be the ideal- but a shared development/deployment
of a workable shield technolgy by all nations would, at least
temporarily, achieve that same result. The way we're doing it now,
unilaterally and with a technology that seems ill conceived and so
far unworkable..is not going to do anything but continue
inflammatory rhetoric and engender fear.
vic.hernandez
- 09:53am Aug 10, 2000 EST (#208
of 11863)
patndmmac #199 & #200 richrllb #206
1) At least you moved a little off dead center. A Ballistic
Missle Defence (BMD)does not promote nuclear war. It increases the
uncertainty factor for any attack scenario. If you don't have any
too many, and you are uncertain of success, you don't use.
2) A Balance of Power is just that. It is not a static situation.
Movement about the balance point, movement that may be caused by a
third party that is not under the control of the major participants,
changes the balance. We are in a dance that doesn't end and we do
not have control over the waltz selection.
3) Atmosphere of Fear. What do we have now? For the first time in
the history of man, real death may rain down from the skies at any
time, unopposed. A BMD would at least provide a chance that we don't
have now. Let's make uncertainty of success and ally.
4) Damage to the Ecosphere. Given. But then fear of such damage
didn't stop Mr. Hussein of Iraq from making one hell of a mess in
his own backyard. Nobody wants it, but it is a direct result of use.
The question is not if it will result from a full fledge nuclear
exchange, but how do we prevent the exchange?
5) Your idea that nations are not suicidal is probably correct.
But they do miscalculate the reactions of others. Your example of
Korea is quite apropos. The leadership of N. Korea thought that they
could take over the South in 1950. They acted. The end result being
the Korean War. Neither us or the Soviet Union had numerous wepons
or the means to deliver them reliably. If this war were to have
started in 1960, when there were more lethal means of destruction,
would it have ended as it did?
6) Predators and barbarians. What do you want to call them? What
is the politically correct name for them? Shall we call them "Really
aggressive people or persons whom we cannot get along with"? This is
not about name calling, this is about the life and death of millions
of people.
7) Maginot Line. War is about defence and offense. Yes the
Maginot Line was flanked. What you don't mention is that a decision
was made that gentlemen do not defend against allies. As a result
the line was not completed to the sea. Also, there were some
assaults made against the line, they weren't successful. In fact,
some sections of the line had to be seiged out. While total defence
may not win a war, a good defence can buy the time needed to
position yourself to win.
8) Speedbird77 in #205 is correct. Anyone trying to build to
overcome the BMD would have to make some serious decisions. Just
declaring an intent would not do. They would have to execute.
beckq
- 10:24am Aug 10, 2000 EST (#209
of 11863)
vic.hernandez - 09:53am Aug 10, 2000 EDT (#208 of 208)
Listen Killroy your way off.
beckq
- 11:09am Aug 10, 2000 EST (#210
of 11863)
Why are you off?
Welp way I and others see it-America is attempting to have its
cake and eat it too. It wants to sit around the world with all the
nuclear weapons it can muster sitting in silos on planes and in
ships, and the very thing that has prevented America and other
nations from ever useing these overpriced male peckers is that if
you use them-you without question WILL die. Think I'm wrong-consider
why America signed that SALT I treaty and the protocols. It signed
it to lower the chance that one side would attempt to consider ways
to increase a survival rate. They knew-that if they did not maintain
provisions that survival a 'no-no' then both would attempt to
survive.
Your country will no longer exist the way you knew it prior. I
heard another person call it national survival-the survival of your
country is understood to be destroyed if you use nuclear weapons.
Now-America wants to take that very instrument-that assurance
that America and the rest of the world has used to maintain that WMD
are not used by other countrys-and it wants to-flush it down the
craper. Why because everybody is worried about the crazy monsters
they helped finance and build during the ideological pecker war with
the Soviets. And now-now we can't have monsters anymore-and so we
think we can just build a shield and they will stay out of the
courtyard. Who says they have to fly into the courtyard to begin
with? and kla-bloom-all your billions in money-money that can be
utilized to provide better education-better healthcare-better
quality of life is all wasted. And-you instituted an arms race with
all the normal countrys you have been dealing with since day #1
because your 'defensive' shield-adds chance to a game that only
worked when no chance existed Thats why nobody played.
wangzho1
- 12:10pm Aug 10, 2000 EST (#211
of 11863) wang zhong(ŸŠ’†)
NMD will dies naturally.
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