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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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kgblankinship
- 05:19pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#66
of 11858)
Regarding Patriot effectiveness. True, the success rate of
Patriot was overstated, but after closer investigation of all
launches during Desert Storm (including Israel) by DOD and by the
contractor, that despite Postol's claims, it was found that the
success rate was actually 65 % (as published in a detailed early
1990s article in Foreign Affairs). Not bad for the first US ABM
system, and Patriot was not originally designed for this role.
vic.hernandez
- 07:02pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#67
of 11858)
Right now the President has a choice to two responses should a
missle armed opponent attack. First, take the hit, declare war and
try to go after the perpetrators with conventional forces. Second,
retaliate with nuclear force, killing millions in the process.
Either way, a lot of people on both sides of the conflict are going
to die. You notice I haven't said we just sit back and take it. The
pressure on the President for revenge after we have lost a city to a
nuclear strike will be irresistible. War will follow, and will be
prosecuted to the end.
A missle defense system, even a basic one, will complicate any
attack scenario. The attacker could never be sure which targets
would be destroyed. He would have to launch enough warheads to be
sure that the defense was overwhelmed. Such an attack would not be a
message, but an attempt to totally devastate.
Adding decoys adds to the complexity of the system. The more
complicated a system is, the more likely it is to fail at some
point. Therefore, the system will have to be tested. Testing reveals
the existence and the capabilities of the decoys. Decoy systems do
not come cheap. They cost money, intellect, and throw weight. All of
which are in much in demand. How much of a budget will be devoted to
achieving the goal? Is it going to be enough? Can the effort be
overcome by the opponent?
Once an ABM system is deployed, it will be continuously improved.
As an example, the smart bomb of today is not the smart bomb of the
Viet Nam War. It has been tested, and incrementally improved over
the years until it is now a highly reliable weapon. That is what
will happen to any ABM system that is deployed. Year after year,
incremental improvements will be made to sensors, manuvering
systems, computing systems, and other elements. We are not talking
about a static situation.
An ABM system needs to be developed and deployed. How much will
it cost to replace downtown Anywhere, USA? Not to mention the lives
of the citizens there at the time of impact. Let's give our warriors
tools they can use to deflect an attack, not just avenge our dead.
The President needs to be given the opportunity to have more than a
choice between becoming a killer on a fabulous scale or becoming
known as the man who allowed American Citizens to be slaughtered.
longiiland
- 07:05pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#68
of 11858)
By perusing a concept that attempts to survive nuclear warfare
you give nuclear warfare a ‘chance’. That ‘chance’ of survival
destroys the very essence of the worldwide deterrence model. That is
why the international community has overwhelmingly tipped the scales
in opposition to this system. That is why SALT I and the ABM
protocols exist between the two largest nuclear powers. Deployment
of such a system embraces the theoretical perspective of Nuclear
Utilization Theory. It may not be the intent of those who deploy-but
every rational state views the system as a total embrace of a theory
designed to win a nuclear war. That perspective (NUTS)(grin) implies
that not only will nuclear war be fought-but it mussed be fought to
survive and win. In such a pursuit, you lower conventional warfare
thresholds and lower the crossover points at which conventional
conflict goes into nuclear conflict. This is due to the very fact
that one has added a chance to something in which no chance existed
prior. You cannot posture yourself against the irrational actor- the
minority of this world. Doing so only requires the majority if this
world (rational actors) to balance against your own actions. You
cannot thwart the irrational actor because the irrational actor has
no limits or boundaries. The very name implies that the irrational
actor is impossible to deter. As noted by the CIA of May 19th 00,
the terminology of ‘rogue’ state has no significant in the course of
debate regarding missile deference because ‘rouge’ implies that such
states are irrational and every state America has labeled rouge is
rational. The rational/irrational actor model is core issue
regarding deterrence. As the CIA pointed out, rouge state has ‘more
political significance then true value to the structure of
deterrence’. In short the largest nuclear power embarking on the
deployment of a system designed to survive nuclear strikes creates
the impetus for every rational actor, depost to allie to do the
same. All at varying levels of technological development all at
varying levels of effiencey. In doing so-you destroy nuclear
deterrence-the very concept that has maintained no use of nuclear
weapons against states since 1945. If one recalls our operational
experience in Desert Storm is that while missile defense did not
work very well, deterrence did work very well. Saddam Hussein had
poison gas-tipped Scuds that were available for launch at the time
of the war, and he did not use them. Subsequently, after the U.S.
military interrogated some defectors and some captured Iraqi
leaders, it became clear why not: Saddam Hussein did not want to get
blown up. Before the war, the United States, Britain, France and
Israel had all stated, both publicly and privately, that if he was
the first to use weapons of mass destruction, he would not be the
last to use weapons of mass destruction. Saddam Hussein and his
kindred despots in other countries that we are worried about have
not survived for extended periods of time by being stupid or
careless. They are ruthless and cruel and sometimes reckless, but
they don't remain in power, despite our repeated attempts in the
case of Saddam Hussein to dislodge him, by being careless about the
survival of their regime. Saddam Hussein understood very well that
if he initiated the use of weapons of mass destruction, our
retaliation would annihilate his regime. So the notion that missile
defense is the only bulwark we have against weapons of mass
destruction attacks from these regimes simply flies in the face of
our actual experience, in which deterrence has worked very well and
missile defense has not worked very well at all.
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