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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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gisterme - 08:10pm Mar 14, 2003 EST (# 9955 of 9979)

rshow55 - 07:45pm Mar 14, 2003 EST (# 9950 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.1UqAabrD5zO.1971981@.f28e622/11495

"...It matters enormously. The fact should be checked. Facts around it should be carefully checked..."

What makes you think that the possiblity Saddam might not be alive hasn't been checked? And if somebody besided Saddam is in control of Iraq, whomever that may be, they're still ignoring UN resolutions and threatening us.

Do you think that Tariq Aziz would believe us if we said Saddam is dead? Not. How about Iraqi generals? Not. If somebody is acting in Saddam's place, they're going to deny any evidence that Saddam is dead, no matter how compelling. So if Saddam were dead, it wouldn't make any difference.

I'm certain that France, Russia, China and Germany all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Saddam has WMD; but, they're all saying "we aren't convinced" anyway.

rshow55 - 08:14pm Mar 14, 2003 EST (# 9956 of 9979) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/md11893.htm

a nice quote from The Thin Man - a tale that hinges on a "character" who acted villianously, but was really dead - and another good quote from Turte's Envisioning Information.

Here's a problem summary from Wizard's Chess http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/05/opinion/05SUN1.html

. Washington must simultaneously cope with three separate and potentially grave threats — from Iraq, from North Korea and from the threat of reconstituted international terrorist networks.

Also from the political effects of deception and self deception from the Bush administraiton itself, which, unless there is more discipline, could be the greatest threat to US security of all.

gisterme - 08:19pm Mar 14, 2003 EST (# 9957 of 9979)

lchic --

The notion that Showalter is under some kind of virtual house arrest is absurd. He lives in America. If he thought that were the case, he'd be able to hire a lawyer and sue the pants off the government. He wouldn't be able to go to Chicago to meet with wrcooper and he wouldn't be able to say whatever he pleases here on this forum or anywhere else. The US government doesn't work that way and in case you didn't know it, the CIA has no power in domestic issues. Being inside the US borders, if Robert had a problem with anybody, it would be the FBI.

If Robert had anything beyond what he does here to offer to his "nation state" there's no reason he can't offer it. It may be that Robert finds comfort in claiming he's under house arrest because he doesn't have much to offer. It would be a nice excuse.

That you seem to believe it, lchic, again shows you lack of knowledge about how life in the US works.

lchic - 08:23pm Mar 14, 2003 EST (# 9958 of 9979)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

John Howard's failure | There's a lot that needs cleaning up internationally to give all people 'real' and valued lives | Poem

Puangthong Simaplee - VillaWood Detention Center Sydney

http://politicstalk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee9cff9/1631

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