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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 02:55am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9889 of 9895)
rshow55 - 08:25am Mar 12, 2003 EST (# 9857 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.OKOOauWz5hI.1631370@.f28e622/11399
"...When we apply SIMPLE models of structure to
circumstances that have a more complicated structure than we
are thinking of , we can get into trouble..."
There may be some truth to that, Robert; but when we
overcomplicate things that are simple, it's even worse.
gisterme
- 03:03am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9890 of 9895)
lchic - 01:19pm Mar 12, 2003 EST (# 9864 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.OKOOauWz5hI.1631370@.f28e622/11406
"... what's the Iraq War 'actually' about ?..."
It's about giving those one out of eight Iraqi chidlren who
starve food instead of chemical and biological weapons and
palaces and tanks and armies and...
lchic
- 07:21am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9891 of 9895) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Australia : Prime Minister Howard made his 'Go to war'
speech ...
Peter Hackworth - America's most decorated (Vietnam)
soldier said he-himself would not be 'going to war' at this
point in time
See this site tomorrow when transcript will be posted http://abc.net.au/7.30/default.htm
lchic
- 07:27am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9892 of 9895) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Iraq - military strategy
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/s801582.htm
lchic
- 07:29am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9893 of 9895) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Howard's address
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/default.htm
rshow55
- 08:53am Mar 13, 2003 EST (#
9894 of 9895)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Re: gisterme - 02:55am Mar 13, 2003 EST (# 9889
I've posted this from time to time since Jul 29, 2001:
" There's a problem with long and
complex. And another problem with short. . . . . The long
and the short of it, I think, is that you need both long and
short."
From the long, quite often, the short condenses.
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I know what I'm hoping for just now. A good, solid
negotiation. Rooting for Blair particularly, just now.
I know what I'd dream of, right now - though I know it
isn't possible. I'd love a chance to be a "fly on the wall"
watching President Bush canvass for votes. It is something
he's good at. It would be fascinating. And though we disagree,
I think Bush really is trying to do the best he can for the
United States, and not forgetting people in other nations,
either. He's got some stuff wrong, but he's trying. And on the
need for order, I think he's right.
I'd love a chance to facilitate negotiations between people
having to make voting decisions - trying to get them clear
about what they themselves actually want - considered in
detail - and if there's horse-trading involved, what they
really need to ask for. Whatever it is - it needs to be
something they could explain without shame to the people who
they are responsible for and responsible to.
I'd love a chance to deal with Saddam, and see if there was
some deal he might take - might be proud to take - that would
work well, and honorably, in the situation as it actually is.
I know that I'd be grateful for a chance to work with a man
who knows what he knows - and think I could do so in ways
honorable to both of us. Just a dream.
All those things, I know, are impossible now - because
there isn't mechanism, nor legitimacy for it to happen.
Talk is only so cheap - and only so passive. Ideas can be
powerful. But only so powerful.
In the end, people who have votes to cast, and decisions to
make, have to act.
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