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nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
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gisterme
- 08:06pm Mar 9, 2003 EST (#
9723 of 9726)
rshow55 - 10:08am Mar 9, 2003 EST (# 9696 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.7nuoa5EH5Da.944466@.f28e622/11238
NASA'S CURSE? 'Groupthink' Is 30 Years Old, and Still
Going Strong By JOHN SCHWARTZ and MATTHEW L. WALD http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/weekinreview/09SCHW.html
"...He called groupthink "a mode of thinking that people
engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive
in-group, when the members' strivings for unanimity override
their motivation to realistically appraise alternative courses
of action." It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense,
and authority over expertise..."
That's a very astute observation that no doubt has a
significant aspect of truth to it. However, that notion
collides head-on with the fact that some problems are too
large to be solved or even managed by a single individual or a
group of loose cannons.
The fact would seem to be that despite the best efforts of
any group, NASA included, absolute perfection in
craftsmanship, management or human judgement is a
statistically unacheivable goal. NASA consists of humans.
If poor craftsmanship or design turns out to be the cause
of the Columbia tragedy (as I expect it will) about all that
can be done now is to learn from the mistake and try to
correct it as was done after the Challenger accident. We
mustn't forget that space technology is pushing the extreme
edge of our technological envelope.
I would add that even if NASA management knew that the
Columbia reentry would be dangerous or even if they knew it
was likely to end as it did, what would have been the point of
making that public knowledge prior to the fact? Since nothing
could have been done about it I can see no point.
All such a public proclamation would have accomplished is
make the last couple of weeks of the crew's lives miserable.
In my view, that would have amounted to a cruel and
unnecessary punishment of the innocent. The Columbia crew were
doing what they loved and had dreamed of doing. To have
spoiled that would have done them a great and unnecessary
dishonor.
Those who want to point fingers and sling accusations
should keep that in mind, particularly those in the media who
think they may have missed the opportunity to cause a
sensational (and profitable) two weeks of public misery. Some
ideals must be placed above self service.
On the other hand, honesty and forthrightness on the part
of NASA after the fact is equally important. NASA needs to be
about the business of identifying and solving the problem
unhindered by mud-slinging. There's an International Space
Station up there that's at the leading edge of all-time human
acheivement. Until there's a better alternative, the Shuttle
is necessary to service and complete it.
If it is learned that whatever turns out to be the fatal
flaw was previously known and should have been
acknowledged and repaired that's a thing that should be dealt
with quietly, keeping in mind that absolute perfection in
judgement is not a quality found in humans. If that's the
approach to any necessary managerial corrections then the
truth of the problem is much more likely to be found and fixed
quickly.
Lessons learned, especially hard lessons, only improve
subsequent performance whether they be at at the individaual,
group, national or world scale. If someone at NASA needs to be
sacked, so be it; but any replacement will have had to learn
the same hard lesson vicarously. In my view, first hand
experience is the best of teachers.
gisterme
- 09:05pm Mar 9, 2003 EST (#
9724 of 9726)
rshow55 - 07:48pm Mar 9, 2003 EST (# 9721 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.7nuoa5EH5Da.944466@.f28e622/11263
"...You can't, very often, have leaders or groups
agreeing on
" who is the bad guy?"..."
You seem to be missing the point, Robert. Nobody
disagrees that Saddam is a brutal dictator and in general, a
bad guy.
The problem is that certain leaders don't want to admit
that they've bet their respective countries' farms on the
expectation of good will from such a man ( or worse );
they don't want their publics to realize how naive they've
been in their leadership.
Such leaders would rather see other leaders (such as
our own president or the British PM) shirk their duty
to protect their own publics than to have to admit their
own foolishness.
The only reason I can imagine that certain governments
would want to protect a murderer like Saddam and prolong the
agony of the Iraqi people is because they expect that their
own ox will be gored upon Saddam's demise. How like children
they're acting, kicking and screaming rather than just taking
their medicine! The truth is going to come out anyway so why
not at least be on the right side?
Simple denial by such men would surely be their political
undoing even if they were just stupid. I don't believe they
are. I think that the truth coming out about their relations
with Saddam must seem a much larger threat to them than just
being perceived as "in denial" or stupid. Their one slim hope
of survival is to somehow prevent the truth from coming out.
I don't expect the President of the United States, British
PM and others are in the mood for playing that game. After
all, it's their own publics that they're sworn to
defend, not the careers or hidden agendas of foreign
politicians.
Perhaps Saddam has a nuke after all. What a tragedy the
revelation of that would cause, especially for those
found to be responsible after the dust settles. I sincerely
hope there's nothing that bad; but there's certainly
got to be somthing ugly that's hidden. Where there's
smoke, there's fire.
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