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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 06:34pm Mar 4, 2003 EST (#
9446 of 9458)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Manj - http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.NYYSaGA14ac.60001@.f28e622/10984
I also believe that it would be Bush's duty to install
any MD system that works . But that isn't what's
involved here - and people involved in the decisions making -
unless they are all involved in the kinds of evasions on view
at NASA (as they may be) must and ought to know
it.
Almarst's 9444 makes an important point about 9/11 -
and the way that tragedy has been used.
9386 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.NYYSaGA14ac.60001@.f28e622/10922
http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm
from the first, muddled news of the September 11 attack in
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8762.htm
makes interesting reading - for many days.
Many interesting postings by gisterme in the days
after 9/11, and many interesting citations to NYT Op-Ed pieces
and articles.
We've come a long way. We've made some progress.
But it makes sense to realize that, often enough, the
United States' reaction since has been as capable of error as
NASA - or the executives and supporters of Enron - - whether
the people involved have been "sincere" or not.
Things need to be checked.
With the patterns on show in the recent NASA fiasco, and in
other places, too - it ought to be clear that sometimes it
takes outside force to get things straight.
We are close to some very good adjustments in
international relations - if people are careful - honest
enough - and take their time. If responsible people do - this
could be a time where the Bush administration - and many other
national leaderships - deserve great credit. Or it could be a
disaster.
People need to do what they think is right - and
have to courage and the wit to see to it that they have
their facts and relations straight.
There aren't very many people like the diplomat whose
resignation is reported in U.S. Diplomat Resigns,
Protesting 'Our Fervent Pursuit of War' By FELICITY
BARRINGER http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/international/middleeast/27NATI.html
- - right or wrong. Far, far more of the people in American
bureacracy are much more like the key people in the NASA
bureacracy - "agreeable" - - they "go along" - and it
is inconcievable that they ever admit that they or
their organizations can make mistakes - if they have to do so
in a way that really costs them something on balance -
or displeases "the group." Or, most especially - take a
position in public that displeases the President.
And the United States, by historical and world standards,
does most things pretty well. Most other countries are,
everything considered, usually worse.
Was I too optimistic? I started the year hopeful.
7177 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.NYYSaGA14ac.60001@.f28e622/8700
I think this is a year where some lessons
are going to have to be learned about stability and function
of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of
order , symmetry , and harmony - at the
levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly
enough to produce systems that have these properties by
design, not by chance.
If the people at the UN do their job - it may still be
true. With good luck - the lesson may not even have to be too
expensive in blood and agony.
There's a quote from Benjamin Franklin:
" Experience keeps a dear school. A fool
will learn in no other."
9386 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.NYYSaGA14ac.60001@.f28e622/10922
Maybe the wor
rshow55
- 07:05pm Mar 4, 2003 EST (#
9447 of 9458)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
There's a quote from Benjamin Franklin:
" Experience keeps a dear school. A fool
will learn in no other."
9386 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.NYYSaGA14ac.60001@.f28e622/10922
Maybe the world can find ways not to be too foolish.
We have to find ways to limit the ability of leaders
- and bureacracies - to decieve others or themselves. The
limits wouldn't have to be anything like perfect to be a
great improvement on the situation today.
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