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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:19pm Feb 27, 2003 EST (# 9336 of 9340)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Here are stories on missile defense today:

Australia Eyes Missile Shield Amid N.Korea Threat By REUTERS (Reuters) News http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-australia-usa-missiles.html

Pentagon Seeking to Deploy Missiles Before Full Testing By DAVID FIRESTONE (NYT) News http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/politics/27MISS.html

It is a long time since Skeptical Senators Question Rumsfeld on Missile Defense by JAMES DAO http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/politics/22MILI.html - and some of the same issues continue.

Issues of checking and testing have been much discussed. And the need, eventually - for checking with staffs , and umpires.

If nation states that have expressed concern about American priorities - notably Germany, France, and Russia - actually ask for answers - a great deal would sort out - in the interest of people of good faith everywhere. Very many such people are Americans. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/408

Are there i americans who could actually check the things that had to be checked? By current usages - it would be hard - but US Senators and their staffs - when they care to - can find truth - and get it across. Though they can also obscure it. Senators of both parties are getting clearer than they may have been in the past on just how muddled bureacracies can be - the statements by Grassley, Specter, and Leahy on C-Span associated with Senate Criticizes FBI on Anti - Terror Law By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 6:22 p.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Anti-Terror-Act.html were bracing.

this link http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/7560 has beautiful links from lchic, and includes this:

There's a problem with long and complex. And another problem with short. . . . . The long and the short of it, I think, is that you need both long and short."

In the end - I'd like to help get across some simple messages:

1. Missile defense is not only a bad strategic idea -- it is also a huge technical fraud, with no technical viability whatsoever, and that can be shown in public.

2. The US military industrial complex is now, in decisive ways, fundamentally fraudulent and corrupt.

3. For a while, the rest of the world has to take responsibility for action without dependence on the cooperation of the United States, or deference to its good judgement, until some basic issues in the United States get righted.

"The problem with these messages is not that they are complicated, but that people are not yet ready to hear them, in ways that can let them "detonate" through the culture, as true ideas, at the right time, can do. But people are more ready than before (in July, 2001). The flow of the news, and editorial opinion, in this paper and many others, worldwide, illustrates that.

They are much more ready now.

Let me cite a poem, that I feel is fairly concise, on the issue of "detonation" -- Chain Breakers . . . . http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618

gisterme - 04:21pm Feb 27, 2003 EST (# 9337 of 9340)

lchic - 04:01pm Feb 27, 2003 EST (# 9328 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.breoazby4Gc.341979@.f28e622/10862

"...The Good people don't like to be UNDER falling BOMBS..."

Quite true lchic. Neither did the good people of France; but I'll bet the good people of Iraq, as were the the good people of France, are willing to tolerate a few bombs to be liberated from a future of dynastic tyranny.

Let's hope together that bombs prove unnecessary for the liberation of the good people of Iraq.

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