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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 10:25am Feb 24, 2003 EST (#
9254 of 9264)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
I told gisterme Friday night that I'd annotate his
important 9184 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/10710
and I will get to that tomorrow. Readers who care about
American action might want to read it now, before I annotate
it, especially if they suspect, as I do, that gisterme
is either the President of the United States, or very close to
him
Psychwar 375-377 notates issues - discussed on this
thread - including the question of who gisterme is,
that others might want to judge for themselves. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/407
Psychwar 279 talks about some key issues, as well -
including these links that are very much concerned with
missile defense , and mechanisms by which it might be
possible to get to right answers by saying, in a
systematic way " here, look for yourself." http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/296
Challenge, questions, and invokation of the need for force:
MD728 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/906
MD729 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/907
MD730
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/908
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Counterchallenge:
MD764 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/956
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Comment and response:
MD780 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/976
... MD783-784
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/981
MD84 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/99
To solve some problems - understanding is key - but power
matters, too. Leaders of nation states are going to have to
ask for some answers - if they expect to get them - on matters
of war, peace, and decency.
gisterme
- 11:14am Feb 24, 2003 EST (#
9255 of 9264)
fredmoore - - 08:55pm Feb 22, 2003 EST (# 9228 of
...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/10754
"...Better look to a lust for power and brutal
imperialism which lives in the hearts of some french people.
The suppression of free speech in the French press fuels the
fire. Is there a public forum in any major French
newspaper?..."
You're right, of course, Fred. That's why I asked Robert to
try connecting some dots WRT to motivation behind the actions
of the French Government.
gisterme
- 11:38am Feb 24, 2003 EST (#
9256 of 9264)
rshow55 - 10:13am Feb 22, 2003 EST (# 9205...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/10731
"...Here's something solid to refer to:..."
That reference is for adibatic flow...meaning gas flow
without gain or loss of heat.
Atmospheric flow across shuttle wings is not
adibatic. How do you think all that plasma is formed during
reentry?
Once again I'd suggest you stay away from technical topics
since you seem to have no clue what you're talking about.
The referece you gave is interesting and correct for gas
flow inside a pipe.
gisterme
- 11:47am Feb 24, 2003 EST (#
9257 of 9264)
rshow55 - - 04:55pm Feb 22, 2003 EST (# 9222 of ...)
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.0bmfavXZ4JM.2264331@.f28e622/10748
"...Punishing crime is a high value. Among others. But
most people are concerned about the question of what happens
in the future - not just the past..."
WRT Iraq and Saddam Hussein, punishment for his
crimes is not now a issue or a driving force behind what's
going on. Even though Saddam has the blood of a million on his
hands, he will not be punished by the international community
if he honors UN resolutions and destroys his WMD and their
production capability.
The driving force behind what's going on WRT Iraq right now
is about what happens in the future. It's about
preventing a proven criminal from repeating his crimes on a
global scale. Why can't you grasp that?
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