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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:10am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9169 of 9177)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

A cultural-Kurdish zone ... why should Turkey 'fear' it?

"" In the end, some Turkish commentators say, the negotiations with the Americans are hampered by a lack of trust. The Kurdish region of northern Iraq has flourished under the encouragement of successive American presidents, who have seen it as a bulwark against Mr. Hussein.

If war comes to Iraq, these Turkish commentators say, many in the Turkish government fear that the Americans, rather than blocking the Kurdish bids for a new state, would try to help them along.

"The Turks do not trust the Americans to be an honest broker," said Dogu Ergil, professor of political science here. "And they don't believe Turkey will be in control of northern Iraq once Saddam is gone."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/international/europe/21TURK.html

lchic - 09:12am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9170 of 9177)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

I hear that in the USA even 'direct lines to God' are bugged by the CIA ;)

rshow55 - 10:03am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9171 of 9177) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Turkey Official: U.S. Troop Deal Reached By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 9:28 a.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Turkey-US-Iraq.html

mazza9 - 10:24am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9172 of 9177)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

gisterme: Thanks for the synopsis. I've placed the usual suspects on my Ignore Post list. When I see anywhere from 5 to 10 consequetive posts by lchic I can appreciate your observation about "blather". Indeed, as you observed Robert is uniquelly capable of answering a Yes/No question in under 100 words but never less than 50!

The propoganda continues and the Bush bashing is pre-eminent in the minds of those "marching morons" who can't think for themselves. Last night on Hannity and Colmes a student film was broadcast where the student asked protesters about their signs and beliefs. It was clear that the mouthing's of these protestors were ill thought out, or even understood, given the weak/nonsensical answers that they gave.

Meanwhile this forum on missile defense is still held hostage by the mindless ones. Good to hear your voice, in the wilderness. All is not lost and truth survives.

Adios!

gisterme - 10:38am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9173 of 9177)

"...Good to hear your voice, in the wilderness..."

Thanks Lou.

gisterme - 10:53am Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 9174 of 9177)

rshow55 - 07:26am Feb 21, 2003 EST (#9166 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.uYH0abYr3vl.0@.f28e622/10692

"..."In public policy," he wrote, " it matters less who has the best arguments and more who gets heard -- and by whom."..."

Gee, Robert, it would seem that you've been taking Ralph Reed's advice to heart since long before the article says he gave it.

"...We need this war, and need it in a hurry, for what purpose exactly ?..."

1. To prevent an otherwise sure-to-come WMD attack in the US. If Ben Laden had had WMD instead of airliners he would surely have used them in NYC. It may already be too late for full prevention.

2. To end the suffering of the Iraqi people who are otherwise helpless to help themselves escape from beneath the heel of a brutal dictator.

Those are good enough reasons for me.

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