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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:35pm Feb 16, 2003 EST (# 9001 of 9013)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

And people are responsible for what happens - for what their systems do.

Antiwar Marches Reveal Gulf Between Leaders and People By ALAN COWELL http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/16/international/europe/16CND-BLAIR.html

LONDON, Feb. 16 — The drive toward war with Iraq has produced many divisions along the way — between the United States and Europe, and within Europe itself. But as millions across this divided continent marched on Saturday to demand peace, a further, sharp rift widened, not across continents, but within nations, between ruler and ruled.

And in the process the political lines shifted from an almost legalistic argument at the United Nations about the evidence justifying Saddam Hussein's disarmament to a more visceral debate here about the justness of the war, and the moral legitimacy of those prepared to either fight or oppose it.

Significantly, the biggest demonstrations on Saturday were reported from those European nations whose governments sided with the United States against France and Germany in an open letter two weeks ago.

If leaders started asking questions that they are expected to ask - and got some facts straight - a great deal could sort out.

7000-7002 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.a229aP3zYzn^397117@.f28e622/8521

Someday At Christmas by Stevie Wonder http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/xmas/97xmas.html expresses wonderful ideals - and is a great thing to read.

Maybe someday soon - if we keep our heads, and work at it. We ought to think hard about the things that stand in the way of much better human results than we have now.

lchic - 03:32pm Feb 16, 2003 EST (# 9002 of 9013)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Mulgabe - Commonwealth - Howard (Aus)

Howard says it's up to the ZIM-PEOPLE to put their government back on course

Yet

He's not saying the same for Iraq nor NK

rshow55 - 03:56pm Feb 16, 2003 EST (# 9003 of 9013)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In 8979 <a href="/webin/WebX?14@28.mvu6a2Wp39l.968701@.f28e622/10505">rshow55 2/16/03 6:17am</a> I posted this:

I've been working on Guardian threads since June 2000, and on the NYT Missile Defense thread since September 25, 2000 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.mvu6a2Wp39l.968701@.f28e622/2006 where I had an all-day meeting on the web with an authoritative figure.

A recounting of what the Missile Defense thread has done since then is set out in Psychwar, Casablanca - - and terror from #151 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/159 on. Links before March 1, 2002 are no longer on this thread, but I'll be providing accessible links to the summaries from #151-156 today.

I was asked to post on the missile defense thread by KateNYT - and it was clear that my primary interest at the time was nuclear disarmament. There's been a great deal of work on missile defense proper on this thread, as well, reviewed at #84 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.mvu6a2Wp39l.968701@.f28e622/99 - and with many links to one aspect - the ABL system - at 8956-8959 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.mvu6a2Wp39l.968701@.f28e622/10482 - - I'm proud of the technical work on missile defense - but the thread has been more focused on issues of peace and nuclear disarmament. Perhaps there's a moral - that might perhaps interest KateNYT - as expressed by Verlyn Klinkenborg in Accepting the Weather December 26, 2002

The one thing I do remember is this: you have to be careful where you dump the season's first tractor-bucket full of snow because that's where all the rest of the plowed snow - a mountain of it - will inevitably go. . . .

Here is a summary of postings, from March 1, 2001, in six parts.

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