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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 06:10am Feb 4, 2003 EST (#
8558 of 8561)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md511.htm
includes this:
" Kalter , I think that you may know
personally of some of the following circumstances. In
addition to some extensive web postings on the math and
related neural modeling, I had extensive and intense
correspondence (many hundreds of pages) with a NYT
associated writer, mostly paced by him, not by me. There was
a period of many months when a NYT reporter asked me
question after question, occupying essentially all my time,
and much of his own. There was then a period where I was
involved in dialog with TIMES writers and editors.
That dialog was rough, and seems to have culminated in some
"checking" by people the Times knew, though that checking
was never made available to me in a way I could use.
However, the following text appeared in a Feb 27,2000 Week
In Review piece "Correspondence Uncovering Science; A
Perpetual Student Charts a Course Through a Universe of
Discoveries" by Malcolm W. Browne . . . "
http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath/
shows a piece of work I'm proud of - that represented a good
deal of work, I believed, from George Johnson, too. When I
first posted it on this thread - it was taken down without my
consent - then reinstated.
The situation involved here was complicated and awkward -
because I had a secret that I was duty bound to tell only
under careful circumstances - and was keeping promises that
Casey had been very explicit about - for what I thought were
compelling reasons. I did the best I could - and when I told
what I was keeping secret - at gisterme's suggestion,
the NYT forums went down for some days. Perhaps that was a
coincidence. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/352
and postings thereafter on the Guardian are clear about the
point - and refer to many links clear about the point on this
thread.
. It is now technically easy to shoot
down every winged aircraft the US or any other nation has,
or can expect to build - to detect every submarine - and to
sink every surface ship within 500 miles of land - the
technology for doing this is basic - and I see neither
technical nor tactical countermeasures.
My life circumstances, since I was nineteen years old, have
hinged around the point above. Some of my interactions with
the Times have been awkward - I had promised to only
give this information to a senior officer of the United States
government - after establishing a relationship of trust. It
was suggested that, if all else failed, the only way to do
this - after my situation was clear enough - and I could
explain some key things I was also assigned to do - was to
get help from the New York Times. When I finally posted the
information - at gisterme's suggestion - I had been
doing my very best to follow my orders, and keep my promises -
for a long time. The promises I'd made, given the stakes as I
understood them - did not seem disproportionate - and the
things I did seemed to me to fit the obligations I was under.
It still seems that way to me.
rshow55
- 06:26am Feb 4, 2003 EST (#
8559 of 8561)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
8548 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.MpZ6aXLv28d.0@.f28e622/10074
includes this:
"it seems to me to be important for leaders
of nation states to determine if I'm right that
gisterme either is, or is close to, the President of
the United States. Because if that is correct, we have on
this thread a very good corpus of material on how Bush
thinks - the kind of thinking he approves of, and the kinds
of arguments he uses.
I've said some negative things about gisterme , and
I can't think, right off hand, of anything I'd like to take
back (perhaps if I think a while . . . . . )
But I'd also say this. If other nation states work as hard
- and think through their interests with as much
attention as gisterme devotes to his perceptions of the
needs of the United States - we could sort the problems before
us out much, much better than they look like they're sorting
out now.
almarst2002
- 06:49am Feb 4, 2003 EST (#
8560 of 8561)
The $1.26-billion program is the latest step in a
little-publicized campaign by some senior administration
officials, members of Congress and their supporters in the
defense community to press for a new generation of smaller
nuclear weapons - http://www.latimes.com/la-na-nukes3feb03004428,0,6347310.story
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