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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 06:40pm Feb 3, 2003 EST (# 8553 of 8558)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

World Newspaper

http://w2.vu.edu.au/library/infolink/vrc/media.ht
    links
Did the Shuttle Scuttle ME | MD headlines?

lchic - 06:43pm Feb 3, 2003 EST (# 8554 of 8558)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

First Headlines (World)

http://www.1stheadlines.com/

UK-Guardian Unlimited-Wire | Powell To Show Iraqi Transcripts, Photos | Mon Feb 3, 2003 5:20 PM EST

Nando Times-Global* (Reg. Required) | Colin Powell To Reveal Photos Of Iraqi Bioweapons Installations, Source Says | Mon Feb 3, 2003 3:10 PM EST

lchic - 05:15am Feb 4, 2003 EST (# 8555 of 8558)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

'Saddam has been a disaster for the whole region and removing him is not a luxury. It is a necessity'

v

'It is heartbreaking, western policies have devastated Iraq, plundering oil and people. This is genocide.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/voices/0,12811,880735,00.html

11 interviews :

Yasser Alaskary, Iraqi Prospect Organisation | Hamid Ali Alkifaey, UK-based journalist | Salah Awad, US-based journalist | Soran Hamarash, adviser at the Kurdish Cultural Centre | Jabbar Hasan, director of the Iraqi Community Association | Dr Salih Ibrahim, consultant pathologist | Amani, Iraqi Community Association volunteer | Nuri Jacob, former Iraqi civil servant | Nadia Mahmoud, Middle East Centre for Women's Studies | Sayyid Muhammed Musilmeen, Imam in Wales | Maysoon Pachachi, film maker

rshow55 - 05:34am Feb 4, 2003 EST (# 8556 of 8558) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

We're in a situation where a lot of things are dangerous and unstable. With some more care - and some checking of facts to closure - - the big concerns and risks we face could be adressed and solved much more effectively than they will be without people taking the time to be sure of what they may reasonably think.

Our objective must be to make human circumstances better, not worse -- less muddled, not more.

I deeply appreciate this thread.

This thread goes back a long while - and my experience with the NYT goes back even longer. Cooper asked me to post some specific words yesterday - and I'll be posting them.

And posting some other things. Perhaps I owe gisterme , and George Johnson a partial apology as well. I think perhaps not.

Context counts. Motivation counts. Issues of fact -and the fact counts that both deception and repression (in every sense) exists. I'll be referring again to posts 509-510-511 on this thread from November 10, 11 2000 - the first two by me - referring to NYT doings that haven't been disputed - 511 by kalter-rauch

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md510.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md511.htm

If the UN Security Council does its job - does as well as it did last time - I believe that that will make the future much safer and better than it could be otherwise.

lchic - 05:37am Feb 4, 2003 EST (# 8557 of 8558)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Bill Farren-Price IRAQ

"" There is a myth in the west, mainly promulgated by the US, that Iraqi oil production would increase dramatically if there were a regime change. In fact, it's going to take years of major investment to get it back to the levels that existed before the first Gulf war. And because oil is the lifeblood of Iraq, this means it will take years for stability to return to the country, no matter what government replaces ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/voices/story/0,12820,884637,00.html

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3 year Iraq_occupation expected by Brit Army ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2722973.stm

"Andrew Gilligan said that a senior military figure had confirmed that the Army had been told to prepare for a "very long presence indeed in Iraq".

"Some military figures are said to be starting to grumble about the prospect of the US going in to do the fighting and then leaving the UK and other European countries to pick up the pieces."

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