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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 05:49pm Jan 31, 2003 EST (# 8426 of 8449) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In 8391, http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.7aaNaH1l11h.260158@.f28e622/9917 , in response to a question from Cooper about gisterme , I set out references prior to September 13, 2001 to the word "treason." I did so because I was in a hurry - and they included references which had given me reason to believe that gisterme had connections to the government. Cooper's right that the first few references don't refer to gisterme - - though I think they are interesting, and interesting together. These references do refer to and quote gisterme, and refer to other links by gisterme that can be accessed by date via http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6028.htm 6028

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6031.htm 6033

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6059.htm 6060

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6082.htm 6086

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6308.htm 6308

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6312.htm 6312

argument in 6808 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6808.htm

I've suggested in MD6808 rshowalter 7/9/01 4:43pm that gisterme represents this administration, and could not write as extensively as gisterme does, without the knowledge and backing of the very highest levels of the Bush administration, including:

National Security Advisor Condaleezza Rice,

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld,

Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage,

Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfkowitz,

Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, and the people they report to have to.

That's my opinion. I think it is a reasonable opinion, amounting by now to an overwhelming probability -- and I think that many other people, looking at the circumstances, might form the same opinion.

Maybe others, looking at the references cited here - and those linked to them - would not have assumed that gisterme had high government connections - and had to - to have authorization to speak. Maybe I'm just easily intimidated, and easily impressed.

I didn't so much as whisper a suspiscion that gisterme might be President Bush until a few months ago - when it seemed to me, from the discourse - to have become a reasonable supposition.

lchic - 05:56pm Jan 31, 2003 EST (# 8427 of 8449)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Terrorism --- who's looking to the minds that 'shape' those of the terrorist ... the 'teachers of evil' ?

Terrorism --- haven't seen

  • an education package out that does and analysis of the economic negatives of terror .... how it reduces freedoms, increases costs, has closed down industry (tourism BALI) that enable survival

  • an economic paper

  • Artistic interpretations that educate via popular culture

    ~~~~~~~~

    The emphasis on HUMAN RIGHTS over virtual-religious-mind-think / of Nation v Nation should be espoused

    ~~~~~~~~

    The HYPERINFLATION of 1972-5 was destructive to regular economies .... a smooth flow of oil is essential to modern economies.

    ~~~~~~~~

    Alternatives to oil --- where's the investment?

    How 'hard' is it for 'small companies' doing research ---- with years of no-return-on-investment for it's 'true believers' ---- for them to stay afloat, raise capital and keep going.

    There needs to be an evaluation of 'green process' with assistance to promote the innovations of worth.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    sambro55 - 06:24pm Jan 31, 2003 EST (# 8428 of 8449)

    rshow55 -

    Why the obsession with this gisterme? What he said in the links you gave seems reasonable. Why do you think gisterme is a high government official? What does gisterme say about it?

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