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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:06am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8095 of 8102)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Showalter and Johnson have met in the flesh.

Johnson 'posing in character' has spoken to Showalter on the phone.

Johnson is a writer

Writers develop characters

The Characters exist within defined boundaries with defined viewpoints

The Characters appear to be real, to have life, to BE

Yet they are fictions

Spotting the fictions is something most readers of the NYT won't do ---- they'll assume that each moniker is a distinct 'reader/poster' ....

Johnston brought this board's attention here :

Creation/Evolution thread

Chemist99A - 09:56pm Jan 7, 2003 EST (# 13544 of 14293)

Following this post are numerous by the multimonikered George ... working to ascertain the scope of the guy's complaint ...

an interesting senario - examples

dccougar - 10:15pm Jan 7, 2003 EST (# 13545 of 14293)

wrcooper - 10:20pm Jan 7, 2003 EST (# 13547 of 14293)

dccougar - 10:26pm Jan 7, 2003 EST (# 13548 of 14293)

jorian315 - 09:22am Jan 8, 2003 EST (# 13563 of 14293)

gisterme - 10:11am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8096 of 8102)

commondata - 04:18am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8060...)

"...it's no surprise to hear you mindlessly link AQ and Iraq..."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/01/attack/main523963.shtml

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/25/us.iraq.alqaeda/

"...Rice said the U.S. government clearly knows "that there were in the past and have been contacts between senior Iraqi officials and members of al Qaeda going back for actually quite a long time."

"High ranking detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al Qaeda in chemical weapons development," Rice said.

"So, yes, there are contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda. We know that Saddam Hussein has a long history with terrorism in general. And there are some al Qaeda personnel who found refuge in Baghdad," she said. "There clearly are contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq that can be documented."

At the same time, she cautioned that "no one is trying to make an argument at this point that Saddam Hussein somehow had operational control of what happened on September 11th, so we don't want to push this too far."

Rice added: "This is a story that is unfolding, and it is getting clear, and we're learning more. ... When the picture is clear, we'll make full disclosure about it."

If I pushed the AQ-Iraq link "too far" for your sensibilities in the post you referenced, commondata, well that's just too bad. We'll both survive somehow. I'd bet that there will be a lot more information about this soon though. We'll see.

"...Surely it would be more rational to complain about the billion dollars worth of US arms sales to Saudi Arabia annually; didn't that perverse and abhorrent system produce 15 of the 19 hijackers?..."

The Madrassa system tolerated (if not supported) by the secular Saudi Government did produce those fifteen. If Iraq ceases to be a threat to Saudi Arabia, perhaps the Saudis won't need to buy so many arms. We can hope.

lchic - 10:12am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8097 of 8102)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Here's a GU thread critical of NYT

Guardian Talk / International / Why does The New York Times suck? (in your opinion)

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?230@@.3ba7a0a1!skip=47

There're many examples of how "the paper of record" has skewed the news over the years. This forum is created for the purpose of detailing the involved deception that's very much covered up in American mainstream media. Of related note is the Guardian Forum entitled THE NEW YORK TIMES FORUMS ARE THE MOST CENSORED, located in the Politics/Europe & the World section.

Spot the monikers!

lchic - 10:22am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8098 of 8102)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"Even those who sit at the right hand, help him govern with fear, are not safe ....

If i defect he will kill my son ...

Not only i help Saddam Hussain --- Britain helped him --- America helped him ..... "

Iraqi talking with Alan Little bbc

Seems the mercyless Saddam is a Frankenstein created, given breath and scope, by the misguided ... who'll and does kill anyone who even 'thinks' of 'free will'

So on a HUMAN RIGHTS level he's a candidate for removal .... but .... people don't want civillian casualties.

The USA may be perceived to be a power that hasn't always followed through on promises --- leaving civillians who change tack vulnerable to Saddam's sword.

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On the home front the USA government isn't proactive --- rather leaves important matters to be slowly fought through the courts ... example ... the sniper case --- lawyers are looking as to why the guns used were stolen and available ....

On the international front ... the USA has failed to show leadership to improve matters related to international improvement - Greenhouse Gas is one example.

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