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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 10:40pm Jan 25, 2003 EST (#
8057 of 8072)
rshow55 - 06:32pm Jan 25, 2003 EST (# 8048...)
gisterme said:
"Oh, by the way, Robert, for the umpteenth time, I have
nothing to do with the Bush administration or the US
government other than being a tax payer and a voter."
Showalter says:
"...If one searched gisterme _ the 12 search pages
available yesterday - and the 35 additional search pages from
March 1 - that would be a dubious claim..."
Why, Robert? Why would that be a dubious claim? It's not
just a claim, it's the truth! Truth is a thing you seem to
have little talent for recognizing.
Oh, by the way, since you've probably got ten times as many
search pages as I do, does that make you a ranking
official in the Bush administration? Your own logic when
evenly applied seems rather nonsensical doesn't it, Robert?
"...Again and again, gisterme claims special knowledge
that would only be available to a Bush administration
insider..."
Oh? That's news to me, Robert. I think you're confusing
"special knowledge" with "applied common sense". Common sense
seems to be another area of weakness for you. Still I'll give
you the benefit of the doubt. How about just one example of a
case where gisterme has "claimed special knowledge"?
"...And not infrequently, gisterme pulls rank..."
Oh? Pulled rank on whom, Robert? The only rank I have is
the ability (or gift if you will) to express what I believe or
know witin a context of common sense and common
knowledge. If you find yourself feeling "outranked" from time
to time it's because you don't seem to have that same ability.
To be fair, once again, I'll ask for an example.
"...I've been under the impression, since the middle of
2001, that gisterme has had a lot of rank -or close
connections to rank in the Bush administration..."
You've been sadly mistaken.
"...And looking at the record, that seems the only
reasonable conclusion..."
You expose the fact that your intuitive powers are another
area of weakness for you.
"...If I'm right - ...
You're not. You seem to be revealing more than usual about
yourself today, Robert. Hope you're taking note.
"...and some people on the Security Counsel have been
reading this thread - the matter could be checked..."
Let 'em check! :-) I do hope the folks on the UN
security council have better things to do than follow this
thread. Still though, you might be offering a real opportunity
to the French governemnt, Robert. Proving that gisterme is not
a US government official might be the greatest accomplishment
the French government has managed since they surrendered to
Hitler. If they were to aim really high and and apply
all their brain power and strain their intelligence
resources to the absolute limits, they might just succeed! :-)
That's why nobody will much care what the French government
thinks WRT the Iraq issue unless we should decide to
surrender. Then the French advice could be well taken since
they're the only contry on the seucrity council who's forte
and modus operandi is surrender.
If the US were to surrender, do you suppose the French
would come rescue us?
gisterme
- 10:50pm Jan 25, 2003 EST (#
8058 of 8072)
almarst2002 - 09:52pm Jan 25, 2003 EST (# 8054...)
gisterme said: "All that's happening now is that America is
awake and we're going after the folks who have been
prosecuting this war against us. They've been doing their
worst for some time now and will undoubtedly be responsible
for even greater atrocities here and in Europe; but in the
end, the world will be rid of them."
Almarst said"
"...If you relace "America" for "Muslims" you could
submit this to Bin-Laden's likely approval..."
No doubt, Almarst. Except the Iraq issue and even Al Qaeda
are not really about religion. They're about bloodletting. Our
blood. Muslem nations don't have problems because they're
muslems or even because their culture is different to ours.
They have problems because their leaders have continued to
opress their people.
As much as you hate America, Alex, that's an unchangeable
fact.
"...You are a great example of what I just pointed out
to Robert above..."
Then you're off base on two counts.
gisterme
- 11:17pm Jan 25, 2003 EST (#
8059 of 8072)
I read an article a couple of days ago about some European
anti-war folks who are travelling to Iraq to volunteer to
Saddam Hussein to be his human shields. Can't find the link.
Now it seems to me that anybody who volunteers to defend
Saddam Hussein is his friend and the enemy of his enemy.
Whomever defends Saddam defends the generally atrocious
treatment he has shown his people and the blatant human rights
viloations he has perpatrated.
It both saddens and amazes me that such naivetie could
exist in educated people. The article quoted a comment
something like ..."the world will take notice when there are
white European limbs and body parts flying about with those of
our brown brothers"...to one of the group leaders. Wow.
They're racists! They think that by being "superior" to
their brown brothers they will somehow be able to prevent a
war. They're believeng their own propaganda! This is a
modern-day pied piper story.
If Saddam doesn't disarm and military action is taken,
nothing will save anybody who's defending Saddam, regardless
of their race. Those people will intentionally be increasing
the carnage. I wonder how many of those young folks know that
once they get inside Iraq and present themselves as human
shields, they won't be able to change their minds? How ironic
that their first taste of a real dictatorship will be their
last.
As a lasting testimonial to the efforts of these voluntary
human shields perhaps the Darwin Awards folks will make
allowances for a "group award" category...or perhaps a
"lemmings" branch of the arward.
The prestigeous Darwin Award goes to folks who improve the
human gene pool by removing themselves from in the most stupid
ways.
http://www.darwinawards.com/
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