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rshow55 - 09:42am Jan 25, 2003 EST (# 8026 of 8040)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Here is a list of Mohammed's wives and concubines , according to the Muslim scholar Ali Dashti.

1. Khadija b. Khuwailid (died 1st)

2. Sawda/Sauda bint Zam’a

3. ‘Aisha/’A’isha/Aesha (8-9 yrs old)

4. Omm/Umm Salama/Salaim

5. Hafsa ¾ slaves / concubines ¾

6. Zaynab/Zainab bint Jahsh

7. Jowayriya / Juwairiya (captive)

8. Omm/Umm Habiba ¾ uncertain relationship

9. Safiya/Saffiya b. Huyai (captive)

10. Maymuna/Maimuna of Hareth

11. Fatima/Fatema

12. Hend/Hind )widow)

13. Asma of Saba

14. Zaynab of Khozayma

15. Habla

16. Asma of Noman

17. Mary the Christian

18. Rayhana

19. Omm Sharik

20. Maimuna

21. Zaynab/Zainab 3rd

22. Khawla

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mohammed+and+wives&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.angelfire.com/on/ummiby1/muh4.html

http://www.angelfire.com/on/ummiby1/wives1.html

http://www.angelfire.com/on/ummiby1/wives2.html

http://www.angelfire.com/on/ummiby1/wives2.html

http://www.angelfire.com/on/ummiby1/wives2.html

rshow55 - 09:44am Jan 25, 2003 EST (# 8027 of 8040)
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In 7952 I wrote this - and gisterme has dismissed what I said in 8009. He did so in a way that I believe pinpoints terrible mistakes that the Bush administration is making.

Since I don't have html links to this thread, I'm reposting the first part of my 7952

"At a time where a great many people in many nations, including many in the Bush administration - are working hard for peaceful accomodations of difficult and significant problems, this is a superbly clear and important piece.

I think that it gets to the core of a problem that needs to be solved - and a nexus of misunderstandings that need to be adressed.

Why We Know Iraq Is Lying By CONDOLEEZZA RICE http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/23/opinion/23RICE.html

"Instead of implementing national initiatives to disarm, Iraq maintains institutions whose sole purpose is to thwart the work of the inspectors. "

" Is that the purpose of these institutions? Or are these institutions, clumsy and ugly as they may be - set up to defend primary interests of Islamic culture - as it now is in Iraq, with the compromises in place? The issue is important - central, I think, to the problems we face with Iraq - and have had over a decade where a nation that shows some bureaucratic competence has been firing off air-air missiles without turning on guidance radars.

"That is a message that we should, it seems to me -have read as a message, rather than a "simple" mistake.

"There are problems here involving two extremely touchy subjects -- sex and religion. And, in the Islamic case, some fundamental interactions between sex and religion where the Islamic world is very different from the West.

"Win-win solutions to the North Korean mess are well underway, it seems to me. That's because the problems, difficult as they are - are reasonably well understood.

"To get win-win solutions to the messes in or involving the Middle East - Iraq, the Palestinian-Israeli tragedy, and Islamic terrorism - we need to have some things understood.

"I'm hesitating a good deal before going more deeply into this subject matter - but hope I can collect my courage and logic enough to do it well - because the core problems in the Middle East involve sex and religion - in ways that have gone very badly, in human terms, for a long time. Solutions that work have to make aesthetic, moral and practical sense to the real people and nations involved.

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