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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 05:42pm Jan 14, 2003 EST (#
7640 of 7644)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
<a
href="/webin/WebX?14@93.6Jjfabs00cQ^177570@.f28e622/9162">lchic
1/14/03 5:16pm</a> asks important questions. How can we
get to a workable and comfortable story with
respect to Iraq and Korea? How a Story is Shaped. http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ducksoup/555/storyshape.html
Where are there zones of stable, predictable shared
space? . . . A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML
Could the situation, as it has evolved and now exists - be
depicted in a way that everyone could recognize, and
trace through at the level of events - with the primordial
Disney characters? Disney Characters http://www.whom.co.uk/squelch/world_disney.htm
I'm feeling optimistic, but also frustrated. Trying to make
points people can use.
Here are questions that are technically important, stated
as compactly as I dare make them, subject to the fact that now
one talks to me face to face directly.
Could Saddam fairly, accurately
praise George Bush, in language that he could
publicise world wide - and that Bush would recognize - in
terms of facts?
Could Bush fairly, accurately
praise Sadam, in language that he could publicise
world wide - and that Bush would recognize - in terms of
facts?
For a stable peace - even in the sense that "the war
between the sexes" can be peaceful - there have to be
affirmative answers - and enough of them for stability.
The requirements don't look hard for me. If the nations
involved could just switch signs - and take turns in their
interaction, every time - rather than confront and try to
paralyze, every time.
So far as I can tell, nobody would have to concede anything
that they actually need to have. The adjustments
necessary would be in the interests of all concerned.
Because disagreement is so total - there's quite a lot of
hope for oscillatory solutions - it seems to me.
But there would have to be some straight talking - about
something detailed enough so that a workably common language -
workably canonical in the ways that matter - could come into
being.
I think a lot of progress has been made - and there
is a lot of praise that can fairly be administered to both
sides.
With some reservations.
I'm doing the best I can - trying to get some formal things
clear - pardon me if I seem muddled.
Can Saddam and Bush talk straight, about anything of
consequence - even something well removed from key interests
either one of them feels? Could they go to a museum together,
and spend an hour without fighting? Or watch a movie together,
and discuss it, without fighting?
They have to learn to do that - or an exterminatory
fight both are working hard to avoid has to happen.
That's how it seems to me, by inspection. I've traced out
20 sequences - and that's how they work out.
We ought to be able to work this out well.
rshow55
- 05:45pm Jan 14, 2003 EST (#
7641 of 7644)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
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Both Saddam and Bush, whatever they do - have to work very
carefully - because of switching signals - some being sent by
people who want ugly fights - keep disturbing the system. The
Palestinian mess is a big part of the problem - and the
Saudis, who are very helpful sometimes, are about as helpful
as a malicious mother in law at other times.
rshow55
- 05:49pm Jan 14, 2003 EST (#
7642 of 7644)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
I swear, this thing looks soluble - not even all that hard,
if people will just take their time - and recognize that
some conflicts, at some levels - are inescapable - and
not wrong.
Here's a fact. If two animals are different enough, and
fighting, the only hope of a stable accomodation without
killing requires a clean, neat ( small ) threat
display at the start of every interaction.
Both the North Koreans and the Iraqis have been reduced to
that state for quite some time.
That's hopeful - if we have sense enough to ask what - as a
practical matter -the threats are about - and how big the
threats as a practical matter are.
If Bush is being blackmailed, I'd love to know about what.
If he made the blackmail public - in every detail - that might
(I can't know details) be enough to resolve the whole
situation. Just guessing. But it is a guess worth thinking
about.
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