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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 05:56pm Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7377 of 7380)
rshow55
1/5/03 12:22pm
"...Gisterme , I beg of you, could you read, and if
necessarily reread, those bolded sections I wrote, and sort
out in your own mind what it is that you don't understand
about what I've said..."
No need to beg, Robert. I was compelled to re-read what you
wrote there several times in an attemmt to find some
correlation between my statements and your responses. There's
nothing I don't understand about what you've said. What
I don't understand is why you've said it. It seems that
all you have done is try to evade the points you were
supposedly responding to.
"...- and what it is that made what you wrote seem
reasonable, ...?..."
It's reasonable because it's the truth, Robert. That's
important to me whether it is to you or not.
I don't need to beg, Robert; but, for your own
credibility's sake, I'd suggest you re-read your own
bolded respones and the points they were
intended to respond to. I won't go through the whole thing
again...not even lunarchick deserves that...but following is
one example of what I mean.
First, for context's sake, here's your Showalter-headache
inducing question that the example exchange relates to:
" What would happen, if the people playing this "game
that is not a game" set out honestly and in public what they
actually wanted - in such detail that it could actually work
in the (relatively few) interfaces between the "players" that
have to exist for peace, prosperity, and comfort?"
From rshow55
1/5/03 8:09am :
gisterme: "Now, your question presumes honesty and good
will are simply a choice to be made by the well-meaning...and
they are a choice for the well-meaning. However,
since the folks who cause the problems are neither honest nor
well-meaning, they must lie...they must maintain that false
perception before their public...they must hide the dots until
their position of power is unassailable.
Showalter: That's true, at some levels, of all sorts of
politicians - and questions of balance matter a great deal on
how one judges the actions involved.
Either you completely failed to understand what you were
responding to, Robert, or answer you gave is entirely evasive,
attempting to somehow reconstitute your etherial notion that
one person's beauty is as good as another's. Give it up.
Reality is just not like that. Your response has nothing to
do with the statement it follows. I sincerely hope that's
because you had a failure of reading comprehension rather than
that you were initentionally being evasive; but, whichever was
the case, that example is fairly typical of your "responses"
throughout your entire posts,
rshow55
1/5/03 8:04am and rshow55
1/5/03 8:04am .
I'm just greatful that I don't have to point out every
instance of such apparent miscomprehension that comes from
you. There wouldn't be enough time in the day. Fortunately,
most can read and understand for themselves. What seems ironic
to me that you, who so often ramble on about context,
aesthetics, order, symmetry and harmony seem least able of all
who post here to apply them to your own self.
(continued)
gisterme
- 05:57pm Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7378 of 7380)
gisterme
1/5/03 5:56pm (continued)
That brings to mind another statement you periodically pump
out about "go slow, there's plenty of time".
How do you know there's plenty of time, Robert???!
We can know a lot of things; but, how much time we have as
individuals, governments, nations and as a species is one
thing we can't know.
One thing we can know is that things will be much
worse if we wait around...just bide our time...while some
insane megalomaniacs finish up their WMD development programs.
It seems wiser to me to respond to what we can know
than to count on we can't.
One more thing, Robert: I've never thought you were
a pacifist...a verbal pablumist perhaps...but never a
pacifist.
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