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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:09am Jan 5, 2003 EST (# 7357 of 7358)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

"gisterme - 03:22am Jan 5, 2003 EST (# 7340

"gisterme 1/5/03 3:20am (continued)

The question was:

" What would happen, if the people playing this "game that is not a game" set out honestly and in public what they actually wanted - in such detail that it could actually work in the (relatively few) interfaces between the "players" that have to exist for peace, prosperity, and comfort?"

Firstly, murderers and liars like those listed above will never set out honestly and in public what they want. As a matter of fact they must hide those dots we've been talking about to succeed in thier schemes.

. That makes the question a VERY good one - because - with the patterns on this board, some umpiring, and some work - it is HARD to hide significant things.

For example, did Hitler, following his (to him) orderly, symmetric, harmonious and aesthetically beautiful vision of an aryan nation ever publically say that his intent was to slaughter everybody that didn't quite fit into his picture? Of course he didn't.

. As a matter of fact, in the ways that mattered - he was pretty clear and redundant about the point. The Germans were in no doubt about what he meant - in the ways that mattered - and we shouldn't have been, either.

"Why not? The answer to that is just exactly what I was talking about the other day. The truth about the difference between projected perception and reality must remain hidden until absolute power is achieved.

. EVERYBODY hides some things - and the things that matter for action are "hidden" at some levels yet set out clearly at others - which makes collecting the dots and connecting the dots with careful crosschecking VERY USEFUL.

"Herr Hitler knew that, and his personal acievement of absolute power was an integral part of his (to him) orderly, symmetric, harmonious and aesthetically beautiful vision. Therefore he could not publicly reveal the whole truth about what he wanted without destroying his vision.

. I think that's partly true, and in some other ways, Hitler screwed up - and again - he revealed a great deal, in every way that ought to matter. With the logic of connecting the dots that lchick and I have worked out reasonably applied - the Hitlers of the world can be stopped much more reliably, more quickly, and at much less cost.

"Intrestingly, he did reveal just enough of the truth about what he wanted to satisfy Neville Chamberlian.

. Chamberlain messed up badly - and if you think I'm a pacifist - you've been amazingly insensitive.

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