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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 03:22am Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7340 of 7348)
gisterme
1/5/03 3:20am (continued)
The question was:
"What would happen, if the people playing this "game
that is not a game" set out honestly and in public what they
actually wanted - in such detail that it could actually work
in the (relatively few) interfaces between the "players" that
have to exist for peace, prosperity, and comfort?"
Firstly, murderers and liars like those listed above will
never set out honestly and in public what they want. As
a matter of fact they must hide those dots we've been
talking about to succeed in thier schemes.
For example, did Hitler, following his (to him) orderly,
symmetric, harmonious and aesthetically beautiful vision of an
aryan nation ever publically say that his intent was to
slaughter everybody that didn't quite fit into his picture? Of
course he didn't. Why not? The answer to that is just exactly
what I was talking about the other day. The truth about the
difference between projected perception and reality must
remain hidden until absolute power is achieved. Herr Hitler
knew that, and his personal acievement of absolute power was
an integral part of his (to him) orderly, symmetric,
harmonious and aesthetically beautiful vision. Therefore he
could not publicly reveal the whole truth about what he
wanted without destroying his vision. Intrestingly, he
did reveal just enough of the truth about what he
wanted to satisfy Neville Chamberlian.
So to answer the question by example, what would have
happened in Hitler's case is that he would never have become
Chancelor of Germany and the Third Reich would never have come
to pass. But it did.
The same idea applies to the rest on the list above and
others throughout history. The reason such men rise to power
is because they are inherently dishonest.
Now, your question presumes honesty and good will are
simply a choice to be made by the well-meaning...and they
are a choice for the well-meaning. However,
since the folks who cause the problems are neither honest nor
well-meaning, they must lie...they must maintain that
false perception before their public...they must
hide the dots until their position of power is
unassailable.
Secondly, when we're discussing the "relatively few"
interfaces we're obviously neglecting the interfaces between
intrinsically evil persons like those listed above and their
victims. There are tens of millions of those. That doesn't
seem like reltaively few to me. It does seem like a gross
oversimplification that when coupled with the naive assumption
of good intentions reveals a huge flaw in the order, symmetry
and harmony of the fundamental basis of the question.
If everyone were always honest and well-meaning in their
dealings with others then there would be no need to ask the
question.
No wonder you got a headache, Robert. Don't feel bad
though. That question would have given a headache to any
well-meaning person who failed to notice that there really
is evil in the world.
Perhaps, someday, somehow, evil will be driven out of this
world. That would definately reduce the frequency of headaches
and heartaches.
lunarchick
- 03:54am Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7341 of 7348)
Gisterme almost has us believing that:
Showalter is out and about on his tandem with a giant
butterfly net in the one hand, topographically selecting and
collecting dots. [Gisterm is forgetting that:
In his bike basket Showalter will of course be carrying
The Golden Rule, Maslow's Heiracarchy, and Berle's Law of
Power.] We'll assume that when the dots are collected,
Showalter throws them into a megaGiant salad bowl along with
selected clippings from the texts.
To make it curioser and curioser he tosses in ample
shredded complexity and stirs.
Next they're skimm-skammed by the brain, then
marinated for a few hours ...
... later ... heypresto NEW perspectives can be pulled from
the mix by any passing white rabbit - even one in a hurry!
Showalter's sure to say that even small creatures want to
do the very best they can ... because 'it matters'.
:)
lunarchick
- 03:58am Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7342 of 7348)
!
lunarchick
- 04:05am Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7343 of 7348)
Quote ...when you have eliminated the impossible,
whatever remains, however improbable, must be the
truth. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
(Sherlock Holmes)
lunarchick
- 04:15am Jan 5, 2003 EST (#
7344 of 7348)
Showalter would recommend to 'keep checking' ....
on doing so perhaps i got the signs exactly wrong in the
first paragraph here
to Gisterme's utter amusment, no doubt :)
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