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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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mazza9
- 11:12pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6876 of 6897) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
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Senator Murray is a Clymer! To suggest that Osama is loved
for his "good works" and the United States is guilty of not
doing good works for the rest of the world is DUMB!
I remember kindergarten and 1st Grade in 1948 1950. We
built individual CARE pacackages of soap, tooth paste and
tooth brush, wash cloths and othe toiletries to send to war
ravaged Europe! JFKs Peace Corp brought hope and inspiration
to the poor of the world. The US eradicated small pox and
other diseases in Africa and Asia. Look at our budget and the
Foreign Aid that we have provided. I object to this
revisionist cow patties!
lunarchick
- 11:26pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6877 of 6897)
The difference between 'then' and 'now' is that today the
kindyKids would collect money to buy soap from China to send
to the war ravaged!
gisterme
- 11:28pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6878 of 6897)
rshow55
12/18/02 9:12am
"...1. Missile defense is not only a bad strategic idea
-- it is also a huge technical fraud, with no technical
viability whatsoever, and that can be shown in public..."
Okay, Robert. Go ahead and show that. This is a public
forum. If you can show that, why aren't you? Why are you just
saying it can be done but not doing it? Five successes out of
eight attempts doesn't seem like "no thechnical viability
whatsoever" to me.
"...2. The US military industrial complex is now, in
decisive ways, fundamentally fraudulent and corrupt...."
Decisive ways, Robert? What decisive ways? Got any
evidence of this fraud and corruption? Just your
say-so? Hmmm. Does that qualify as showing it in public?
"...3. For a while, the rest of the world has to take
responsibility for action without dependence on the
cooperation of the United States, or deference to its good
judgement, until some basic issues in the United States get
righted..."
Responsibility for what action, Robert? What action
does the rest of the world have to take responsibility for?
What are the basic issues in the United States that have to
get righted before the rest of the world no longer has to take
responsibility for it's own actions?
If these three questions and statements are supposed to be
some sort of concise "to do" list to solve the world's
problems they fail misierably in the purpose. They aren't even
very consistant among themselves.
You're not sounding like your self, Robert. Your nonsense
is usually not so obvious. I hope you're not ill.
lunarchick
- 11:29pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6879 of 6897)
MOI MOI Gisterme
are you advocating that the UN have 'international
de-lousing days' ... everyone zapping in unison -- no where,
no one, to hop to ...
What a wonderful world
lunarchick
- 11:32pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6880 of 6897)
Carbon NanoTubes ... could these be
laid end to end as a space-sewage-system .... that's a
bigger problem than the 'getting there' ...
gisterme
- 11:33pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6881 of 6897)
lunarchick
12/20/02 11:29pm
"...are you advocating that the UN have 'international
de-lousing days' ... everyone zapping in unison -- no where,
no one, to hop to..."
Not suggesting any such thing lunarchick. I'm pointing out
the folly of the concept. Besides the UN is not made up of
chimpanzees, lunarchick. You could probably catch things far
worse than fleas in that place... :-)
gisterme
- 11:41pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (#
6882 of 6897)
lunarchick
12/20/02 11:32pm
"...Carbon NanoTubes ... could these be laid end to end
as a space-sewage-system .... that's a bigger problem than the
'getting there' ..."
Might be a business opportunity for the future! There would
surely be a vast demand for nano-rooter services. I'll bet
those nano-tubes would get clogged up all the time! Gosh, I've
personally known folks that can clog two-inch pipes!
A better idea might be to recycle all that space sewage
into new space stations...new building material would be
readily available so long as humans were present!
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