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nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
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almarst2002
- 10:41pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6696 of 6716)
gisterme
12/15/02 7:55pm
Iraq vs. France WWII.
Do you sincerely believe Saddam is seen as a foreign power
by Iraqi people? May be Hitler believed the same regarding
Stalin?
BTW. The shah of Iran was not a particular example of
democracy the West supported. May be you would suggest the
Saudi Arabian or Jordanian "models of democracy"?
No, manjumicha is absolutly tight in his characterisation
of the nature of your intellectual and moral "integrity".
gisterme
- 10:54pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6697 of 6716)
fredmoore
12/15/02 9:59pm
"...decrease global entropy .... stroke nature's mane
and watch her smile. But beware, she is always ready to bite
your hand..."
Heh heh. Brings to mind the article that Robert posted just
above, "The Odds of That".
I think that life itself is the "anti-entropy" feature of
the physical universe. It's folks and critters who are about
the business of filling ther niches in nature that actually
change the odds of any particular thing happening. The
living things who accomplish that don't think of the things
they do in terms of "the odds" of course. They just do things
that wouldn't happen otherwise in the absence of their
existance.
Isn't it life itself that transforms combinations of lower
chemical-energy compounds to higher chemical-energy compounds?
For example, the oil we use for fuel is mostly carbon and
hydrogen. Neither alone is a very good fuel. How did the two
accomplish the highly unlikely, anti-entropic feat of becoming
combined into a wonderful, handy compact high-density source
of stored chemical energy? Why by having an encounter with
life, of course...
gisterme
- 11:08pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6698 of 6716)
"...Do you sincerely believe Saddam is seen as a foreign
power by Iraqi people?
Didn't say that almarst. Saddam is not seen as a foreign
power in Iraq. He's seen as a cruel opressor just as Milosevic
was in Yugoslavia. All I said is that the Iraqis may well
welcome some foreign help to get rid of a dictator they can't
otherwise do anytning about, just like the French and Serbs
did.
"...May be Hitler believed the same regarding
Stalin?..."
Even Hitler was smart enough to recognize that. What die
Fuhrer wasn't smart enough to recognize is that despite their
problems with Stalin the Russian people would not abide their
homeland becoming a German provence. The Russians won their
victories over Hitler in spite of Stalin not because of him.
That's much to their credit I'd say.
almarst2002
- 11:15pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6699 of 6716)
gisterme,
Do you believe any foreign government has the right to
interfere in other nations internal affairs it deems in need
to be improved?
bbbuck
- 11:16pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6700 of 6716) "You can't eat this, it's people,
it's people"-B....."What about the cherry pie?"
One thing is clear, if Russia would not have fought and
sacrificed 1/4 of their population, Hitler would have won the
war. This after Stalin starved 10-15million ukranians, and
executed or sent to the gulag 9 of 10 of the military
officers. Truly one of the great miracles of human
civilization. The western world's victory over Germany in
WWII would not have been possible without Russia's
contribution.
almarst2002
- 11:18pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6701 of 6716)
One thing is clear, most nations prefere their own tyrans
over those placed by the foreigners.
gisterme
- 11:23pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (#
6702 of 6716)
almarst2002
12/15/02 10:41pm
Previous post #6698 should also include the above
reference.
"...No, manjumicha is absolutly tight in his
characterisation of the nature of your intellectual and moral
"integrity"..."
Whatever that characteriztion may be, almarst, manju is
entitled to manju's opinion...and you are entitled to agree
with it or not.
I'm pleased to concur with you that manju is most likely
"tight" on something. What do you suppose the odds are that we
would agree on something at just this moment in history,
almarst? Kind of spooky isn't it? Do you suppose it could be a
conspiracy?
:-)
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