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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 10:30pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6613 of 6649)
manjumicha
12/13/02 9:28pm
"...Like a big giant goliath going down after losing an
eye...it won't be pretty after that...sure NK will go out in
flame..."
Well, manju, it sounds like you've got the strategy worked
out already; so why were you asking for ideas? Have you been
suspecting you're a bit short on imagination? Do tell. :-)
gisterme
- 10:45pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6614 of 6649)
manjumicha
12/13/02 9:28pm
"...Btw, you are not really serious about the nuclear
subs being "stealth", are you?..."
Well, manju, it's just like this. Although I'll admit to
being a bit generous by including the Chinese submarine in the
stealth category, modern SSBNs are by far the stealthiest,
widest-ranging and most powerful mobile ballistic missile
launching platforms there are.
Manju, I'll bet you couldn't tell me for sure if there were
none, one or a dozen of those boats in any particular ocean.
That's a bet I know you wouldn't take and I couldn't prove if
you did.
That's stealthy enough for me.
gisterme
- 11:03pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6615 of 6649)
"...experience has shown that sanctions can have a
highly negative impact on civilian populations, especially
children and women..."
duhhuh! Especially when the leadership in the nation where
the sanctions are applied has little interest in the
well-being of his people. "Sanctions" are not "embargos". Iraq
has been allowed enough trade to feed its people and even grow
its civil economy a bit.
Unfortunately, that wealth allowed under the sanctions to
prevent suffering by the Iraqi people has instead been spent
by Saddam on stuff like funding terrorists, rewarding homicide
bombers' families, training terrorists, buying arms and
building presidential palaces. Of course funding used for
development and proliferation of WMD comes from the same pot.
That's nobody's fault but Saddam's; however, I think it
won't be an issue much longer since as Mr. Anan pointed out,
the UN feels that sanctions aren't working and, being a method
of the past, implies that they won't be used more by the UN in
the future. I wonder what alternative he has in mind. Hmmm.
Hopefully those kids in Iraq will be eating well again
soon.
manjumicha
- 11:21pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6616 of 6649)
gisterme
You know, your word games is, frankly speaking, quite
boring. And i will just leave you to stew in your own
vomit.....enjoy and adios.
lunarchick
- 11:32pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6617 of 6649)
Iraq children
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=children+sanctions+iraq+death&btnG=Google+Search
gisterme
- 11:36pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6618 of 6649)
commondata
12/14/02 5:24am
"...Ah Gisterme! Even though my laptop was in another
room I heard the insistent call of a babbling infant..."
Just in case you don't know, infants stop doing that if you
feed them something worth eating. Maybe you should try that on
yours.
"...In 1998 there was widespread belief within the IAEA,
within the UN, among the inspectors and virtually everywhere
else beyond Washington that Iraq no longer presented a threat
to the international community. What evidence do you have to
the contrary?..."
I'd say my best evidence that the UN feels that Iraq
remains a threat is the recent 15-0 vote in the UN security
council requiring Iraq to comply with heretofore ignored UN
resolutions by disarming.
Seems like pretty solid evidence to me. What evidence do
you have to prove that Iraq is no longer a threat,
commondata? Saddam's "say so"?
gisterme
- 11:41pm Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6619 of 6649)
almarst2002
12/14/02 3:38pm
"The power breeds arrogance which breeds disaster."
Ahhh. The lesson forgotten by Saddam and Osama. Thanks for
reiterating that almarst.
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