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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 07:43pm Dec 13, 2002 EST (#
6595 of 6649)
gisterme
12/13/02 6:58pm
"...Now, my question is...if a couple of SLVs tipped
with nukes dentonate in the space above Pacific and a fewe
cruise nuclear cruise missiles detonate themselves somewhere
in the Japan sea, would those knock out any form of BMD system
based both in the space and ocean..."
I believe that most critical defensive systems are shielded
against the effects of electromagnetic pulses.
"...I wonder how the military planners can counter a
couple of nuclear silkworms exploding a mile away from the
ageis fleet. Any ideas?"
Umm, I'd expect such an act would be followed by a fairly
rapid regime change in NK, manju. I think the military
planning for same would be fairly simple.
gisterme
- 07:47pm Dec 13, 2002 EST (#
6596 of 6649)
manjumicha
12/13/02 6:51pm
"...What is the "stealth" ICBM launchers, is there such
a thing?..."
Sure. It's called a ballistic missile submarine. The US,
Russia, China, the UK and France either now have or have had
them.
manjumicha
- 09:28pm Dec 13, 2002 EST (#
6597 of 6649)
When NK wants to go out with a bang and takes US with it, I
don't think it would be worried about a regime change. And I
doubt very much that any electronic shield can withstand the
heat and EM pulse generated from a H-bomb explosion nearby.
I believe what worries the commander on the field the most
is the ultimate "asymetrical" warfare that NK is capable of
and will be engaged in. Even in th best possible outcome re:
the MD, the whole system is only as strong as the weakest link
of them all...and they are satellites and ageis
network.....after they are gone, every ICBM in their arsenal
can fly through the sky. Like a big giant goliath going down
after losing an eye...it won't be pretty after that...sure NK
will go out in flame but that is why I think they were called
a "scorpion" by Admiral Pruher... Btw, Admiral Nye was writing
about the dangers of asymetrical warefare since early 90s when
Rummy was running a moeny-grabbing venture using his prior
government services. Hopefully the real soliders like Admiral
Nye and Perry are being heard somewhere....
Btw, you are not really serious about the nuclear subs
being "stealth", are you? If you are, I got a bridge in NYC I
want to sell you.
lunarchick
- 05:07am Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6598 of 6649)
Kiss-CONFLICT OF Kiss-INTEREST
Kissinger informed President Bush that he could not
serve as chairman of the Sept. 11 commission if it meant
revealing the clients of his consulting firm.
(today NYT)
Were Kiss a reader (of this thread) he'd have a pretty good
understanding of conflict of interest.
$$ If he quits - how much did he get?
$$ If he quits - how much does he get to keep?
But then - as one of the presidents chosen men - he may not
intend to function in the 'real' sel-detonating world.
commondata
- 05:24am Dec 14, 2002 EST (#
6599 of 6649)
gisterme
12/13/02 7:06pm - Gawd, commondata. Don't start this crap
again.
Ah Gisterme! Even though my laptop was in another room I
heard the insistent call of a babbling infant. Over to Kofi
Annan:
"Too often, innocent civilians have become
victims not only of the abuses of their own government, but
also of the measures taken against it by the international
community."
From http://www.reliefweb.int/ocha_ol/civilians/impact_sanctions:
As the Secretary-General stated in his first
report on the Protection of Civilians in Armed Conflict,
experience has shown that sanctions can have a highly
negative impact on civilian populations, especially children
and women.
This led to the realization that
comprehensive economic sanctions or broad trade embargoes
are coercive measures of the past and that in today’s
sanctions policies, strategies for mitigating adverse
humanitarian impacts on vulnerable populations have
imperatively to be incorporated from the very beginning.
Don't blame Iraqi suffereng caused by UNITED NATIONS
sanctions that could have been ended at any time if Saddam had
complied with United Nations resolutions on the United
States.
In 1998 there was widespread belief within the IAEA, within
the UN, among the inspectors and virtually everywhere else
beyond Washington that Iraq no longer presented a threat to
the international community. What evidence do you have to the
contrary?
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