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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:30pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6517 of 6527) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

almarst2002 12/11/02 8:21pm . . . could it be that the United States is "feeling its way" towards solutions to these problems? I have but little way of knowing. But not everything is going so badly - and maybe indignation can be overdone.

6294-6 rshow55 11/25/02 2:41pm

I can only have so much indignation about the United States, when other countries take so little responsibility. Just as an example - - I've been making some claims on this thread - and some payoffs, if I'm right, are very big indeed.

What would it cost Putin, or some other leaders, to make a phone call or two, and have the matters involved investigated?

almarst2002 - 08:33pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6518 of 6527)

RE: N.K.

In N.K as well as in many other places, the American policy is to strangle the total population to the point of starvation in hope to bree enough discontent against the regime the Washington may not like. Same applies to Cuba, Iraq and former Yugoslavia.

The hope is that new regime can be easily bribed into obedience while showing the World the American "generocity".

No natter how many children should die in a process of "regime change".

Mazza, if you happend to be born in N.K and unable to feed your kids in large part for this reason - what would you think and feel?

almarst2002 - 08:35pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6519 of 6527)

United States is "feeling its way" towards solutions to these problems?

What problem? Whose problem?

almarst2002 - 08:41pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6520 of 6527)

"Perhaps is we offered the N. Koreans a huge bribe -- say, our real cost of maintaining our garrison in Korea for two years - and the same money they're making on weapons - for five years - they'd agree to inspections and disarmament - at the levels that anybody would reasonably ask for - on a basis that people could be sure of . "

This what is called to turn the problem on its head.

The US actively prevented any attempts of N.K. to get the WWII compensation from Japan as S.K. got.

The US actively prevented any attempt of establishing the peaceful environment on a peninsula. It keeps its armed forces and fleets to intimidate and pressure the N.K. to surrender. It actively prevents any normalization uless on its own terms. That's the source of a problem.

manjumicha - 08:41pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6521 of 6527)

almarst

Your anti-US propaganda won't work either. US withdrew tactical nukes from SK by early 90s; the US troops fall under SK jurisdiction in the same way they are in Germany or Japan....and those two girls got killed in a traffic accident....surely those accidents happen, don;t they. It wasn;t tried in SK court because those were accidents that occur during the formal joint military exercise.....the bottom line is that US troops in Sk are more regulated than in the case of most other nations and at the same level as Japan and Germany. Btw, there are 100,000 US troops staioned in Germany. no wonder Germans are pissed off at Bush for not reducing that number....at least most SKs support US troop presence since they are pretty much hostages who will get killed off entirely during the first two days of any NK offense and which will guarantee US involvement in the war.

Having said that, however, as Robert said, there are those in SK who advocate the going-alone strategy including WMD deterence of its own.

Now, the question is: does it serve US interest to station those human hostages dressed in US army uniform in SK? I am not so sure anymore.

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