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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 04:53pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (#
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manjumicha
11/5/02 4:00pm
So there are some seeds from which solid progress might
grow. I still think the NYT could, and should, play an
important role.
Not that I think the TIMES could or should negotiate with
the NKs alone. That would be unstable, if anybody with real
power wanted it to be unstable. That means it would be
unstable.
But it seems to me that this would be workable,
appropriate, and stable:
There should be a detailed discussion, along
the lines of the discussion lchic and I described in
"Anything on Anything" rshow55
10/30/02 11:34am - - using the internet, and with some
assistance from several other journalistic organizations,
from several other countries - and with enough private
funding (from sources with lines to the administration) - so
that the complications, backgrounds and facts were clear -
at the various levels that would matter to the people
involved.
It seems to me that if that were added to other
negotiation lines in place or coming into being (not
substituted -- added ) - it might facilitate a great deal.
It wouldn't be too hard to arrange, or to fund, if somebody
at the TIMES, with a name, talked to some key people.
Including - because of the complexity and connections of the
business - movie people.
The question
. "How would you make a movie of a fully
workable resolution of the N. Korean mess?"
seems to me a useful question - because to work out such a
movie - by usual commercial standards - people would have to
think about all the real problems actually involve - in the
complexity that exists. If that were done - it shouldn't be so
very hard to come up with an accomodation much safer
and more comfortable than the current one - which is so very
unsatisfactory from almost every player's point of view.
Only good, reasonably complete strategies have any
chance of working as the basis of watchable, commercially
viable movies. The current Bush strategy is barely
sufficient for a skit, played as farce.
For me, the details needed for a real resolution seem
doable - but they'll be easier to think about after the
election results are in.
5472 rshow55
11/5/02 10:30am
rshow55
- 05:14pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (#
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Another thing. Movies are common ground, for many people -
and we need some common ground, complicated enough to
converse about - with the N. Koreans. As I understand it,
their maximum leader watches a lot of movies - and the NYT,
including Frank Rich - knows a lot about movies.
It would be great progress if a key group of (say 20) NKs,
South Koreans, and Chinese could discuss anything
sociably, knowledgeably, and in detail - for even a few hours.
I've been partial to Casablaca - - and also West
Side Story and Mary Poppins - - - but there are
MANY good movies. And since some of the problems are REALLY
basic, and universals are important - some Disney cartoons
might be some useful common ground.
Naive? I don't think so. If people have a core of shared
space about anything - - they have a chance to
build from that shared space.
As of now, there's precious little shared space -
especially non-treacherous shared space - between the North
Koreans and anybody else.
If there was more - a lot more negotiation would be
possible.
I floated the notion of yesterday about getting some of N.
Koreas' neighbors and N. Korea on the same wave length about
how they felt about Japan's behavior in WWII. I wasn't kidding
- and I think the question of how one might make a
movie about those circumstances and feelings might be
worth more than a little thought. Because to make that movie,
key people involved would have to be fully
communicating - and handling problems at the level of
socio-technical complexity that corresponds to the complexity
of any humanly workable peace between the peoples
involved.
rshow55
- 05:15pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (#
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Plus it might be a fine parallel for a lawsuit against the
Japanese - for honor and money -- that might make a lot of the
people involved feel better.
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