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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 01:38pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (#
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Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Or with negotiation skills, and legal arrangements, so that
war was much less likely - and better controlled.
5475 lunarchick
11/5/02 12:31pm has important references, that augment
a point Krugman makes only a little indirectly in The Pitt
Principle http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/01/opinion/01KRUG.html
I'd like to emphasize especially the first lines of
5303 rshow55
10/27/02 10:36am 5303 rshow55
10/27/02 10:36am 5303 rshow55
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10/27/02 10:36am
There are things that need to be checked - that ought to
be, and can be, if some leaders choose.
Maybe we're getting closer to having it happen.
I believe that I was shown absolutely everything that the
Nazis knew that I could use - something I've said before. Some
of the references in 5475 lunarchick
11/5/02 12:31pm say something about how.
Casey felt that, in war, you used every technique that
worked - - and he knowingly did monstrous things. Had
me learn, and study, and consider "improving" some monstrous
techniques. But I don't think Casey could have lived with
himself if he hadn't thought that he was working toward an
ending where the world would be much better place - for
all the crimes and horrors (including some of his.)
The fact that the US effective rulers now use cold-war
fighting technique for self enrichment - perpetuating horror
and danger for the whole world - would have outraged him.
Outrages me, too.
Could I be misinterpreting? I suppose - but in terms of
what I know, and have seen on this board, it is the only thing
that fits.
Links to CIA and my security problems, NYT MD thread:
3774-3779 b rshow55
8/17/02 4:58pm
Staffs might find the last month's postings in
Psychwarfare, Casablanca . . . and terror worth reading
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/354
We need to clean up some messes - and it seems to me that,
ugly as some things are, some progress is being made.
The idea that the Bush administration can proceed from
moral superiority , however, ought to be subject to
examination.
For more than a year, I've been saying this:
With the ingenuity the Bush administration is now
devoting to making its case for missile defense (and you have
to credit them with ingenuity and initiative on this) they
could probably figure out how to achieve real peace, solve the
global warming problem, and assure the whole world an adequate
and safe energy supply, forever.
They'd get a lot more credit for that than they're
getting for what they're now doing.
. .
It seems to me that the biggest barrier in the way to that
is lies that they will not face - or permit to be looked at.
It would take less courage than Saddam, for all his faults,
showed when he emptied his prisons, to set that right.
lunarchick
- 01:58pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (#
5483 of 5484)
... they could probably figure out how to achieve real
peace, solve the global warming problem, and assure the whole
world an adequate and safe energy supply, forever.
... depends on if they could get 'satifaction' from working
for good ... rather than maintaining the world on the 'eve of
destruction'.
http://www.musiclinks.nl/songteksten/Barry_McGuire/7954.html
The Barry McGuire song "Eve of Destruction" is pulled
from retail stores and radio stations across the country
after some groups complain that it is nihilistic and could
promote suicidal feelings amongst teens. 1965 http://ericnuzum.com/banned/sixties.html
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