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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 08:27pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5362 of 5364)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
People respond as they do (and you've made 700
responses ) in terms of "working definitions" clear enough
to produce the responses.
4956 gisterme
10/16/02 10:36pm includes this (among other things) from
gisterme
" I wouldn't bother with this thread if I
didn't think the "stakes" (your word) are a joke. Who would?
Many lives are at stake here, perhaps including yours and
mine. Those are high enough stakes for me.
High enough for me, too.
I appreciate all the effort from gisterme - - -
people can click links from rshow55
10/28/02 6:16pm and judge that effort for themselves.
Not everybody is consistent about everything. Especially
when an election is close.
I like the links in 5334 rshow55
10/28/02 7:50am , and think voters ought to, as well.
Worth repeating, I think:
Bush 2000 Adviser Offered To Use Clout to Help Enron
Joe Stephens Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday,
February 17, 2002; Page A01 b http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A22380-2002Feb16¬Found=true
" Just before the last presidential
election, Bush campaign adviser Ralph Reed offered to help
Enron Corp. deregulate the electricity industry by working
his "good friends" in Washington and by mobilizing religious
leaders and pro-family groups. . .
The whole of Stephens piece bears reading - it has a
certain grim family resemlence to a great deal of other
"persuasive technique" the Bush administration shows.
The New Jersey Ethicist by BILL KELLER http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/21/opinion/21KELL.html
" Allow me to quote my favorite moral
philosopher, Karl Rove. Remember what he told Republican
candidates back in June? "Focus on war." (O.K., he's no
troubadour, but the man gets to the point.) D'you think he
meant, "Let's all focus on the war and have a moment of
silence and feel blue?" Of course not, knucklehead, he
meant, "Take the war, and run the wussy Democrats into the
ground with it."
Some responsible politicians, of both parties, ought to be
asking careful questions. Leaders of other nation states
should be asking them too. And wondering about the motivations
behind things being done.
Out.
mazza9
- 09:07pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5363 of 5364) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
Gisterme:
I read an article about the latest acedemic ho hah! It
seems that incomprhensibility is the fashion, nay the norm,
for communications in the world of academe! Single sentence
paragraphs are used. Sentences are hundreds of words long.
Telegraphic is not in their vocabulary. "Get to the point" is
a lost art.
It appears that to be a deep thinker you must communicate
in such a fashion that doesn't inform. Lesser mortals ponder
these gargantuan pronouncements and say, "He/She must be
smart", because he/she constructs these edifices!
Of course, you and I know what verbal diarrhea is. Now we
need to feed Robert and lchic some Pepto Bismol!
rshow55
- 09:30pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5364 of 5364)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/312
A number of pieces have run in the NYT that I've been glad
to see, perhaps this one most of all:
Playing Know and Tell by John Schwartz http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/09/weekinreview/09BOXA.html
.
Schwartz's piece ends:
" Listen. "
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/321
I've been doing the best I could, under supervised
circumstances. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/331
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/332
Maybe I'm "Ismael" - - http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/289
- - that could be checked - - - and whatever the answer, the
work remains http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/346
MD1999 rshow55
5/4/02 9:39am
I'm proud of the work done, and I think lchic and
The New York Times should be, as well.
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