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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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gisterme - 03:28pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (# 5350 of 5355)

rshow55 10/28/02 7:28am

"...gisterme 10/28/02 12:51am takes me to task, and, stripping a statement from context, says something logically correct - and then erects a straw-man argument far removed from what gisterme knows to be a fair statement of the case. Gisterme responds to a line in rshow55 10/26/02 8:49pm with these words:

". . . WHY NO CHECKING PROCEDURES and STANDARDS ?..."

"...And of course there are some checking procedures and some standards..."

Wellll. This is progress! You finally admit that there are some instead of no checking procedures and standards. That's good, Robert.

However, your claim that I've taken your question out of context seems rather ludicrous to me.

In case you've forgotten, the context of this forum is MISSILE DEFENSE. If you don't believe that, then check. That's easy to do, just scroll to the top of this page and read the large-font bold letters at the top.

Now, the question shown above was the first line you wrote (preceeded by several lchic links) in rshow55 10/26/02 8:49pm . I knew good and well that lchic links have nothing to do with missile defense so I didn't bother to read them again. My response to your post, gisterme 10/28/02 12:51am , was framed in terms of the forum topic, missile defense, as an example.

After you responded to my post, just to check, I went back read the referenced lchic links in gisterme 10/28/02 12:51am and sure, enough, they had nothing to do with missile defense.

It's your entire monolog that's out of context, Robert. But, the answer I gave was both within the context of this forum and the bounds of truthfulness. You say I erected a straw-man arguement. That's not true and you know it. You say that was not what I knew to be a fair statement of the case. What case, Robert? This is a forum, not a courtroom. If as you confess, the context of your question had nothing to do with the forum topic how can you say that I took your question out of context? I'm mystified.

mazza9 - 04:32pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (# 5351 of 5355)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Gisterme:

Good job. It only took persistence and 1100 odd posts for you to receive a partial admission from Robert. Who knows, maybe by Christmas 2009 and 475,000 additional, inane verbage he might deign to admit more.

lchic - 04:37pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (# 5352 of 5355)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

WRT courts use of evidence/information/data Showalter's point is that courts stay on track, use pertinent information that builds a case, use things that

COUNT

    Can Americans Count
    Do Americans Count
    What do they Count for
    Who Counts
    Who doesn't Count
Americans demonstrate no respect for themselves
    '' The violence in our society is as relentless and impersonal as an automobile assembly line.
    We murder one another by the tens of thousands in this country, and there is no sign anywhere that that is about to change.
Not according to Herbert who's been out there for years counting the dead, dead, dead, dead!

So if Americans can't demonstrate a respect for each other, can't get themselves sufficiently organised as a society to allow life

Then

How much respect do they have for those outside their boundaries?

~~~~~~~~

When listening-in-on and destroying the quality of the phone-conversation Showalter and I were holding last ....

These words were mashed with distortion |

BUSH -TEXAS
FOX-MEXICO
Bush's failure in talks with world leaders re pushing his GUNG HO go-to-war viewpoint

Those words were mashed with distortion |

Is the USA impotently embarrassed?

~~~~~~~~~

My emphasis on this board relates to the non-working of the mind of the American War Machine ...

The answers lie 'inside the head'

World Peace is a

MEETING OF MINDS


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