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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:20am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5301 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Mind | To die for a cause |

http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/essays/mccauley.htm

Values | http://www.trans4mind.com/transformation/transform2.21.htm

Masses Classes Thinkers | http://www.netnews.org/bk/psychology2/psyc2249.html

lchic - 10:24am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5302 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The Ointment

When the doctor said, apply this ointment at the place where the scorpion stung your son, the fond father asked the son, "Where did the scorpion sting?" The boy replied, "In that corner" and the father applied the ointment to that spot on the floor!

http://www.netnews.org/exec/nnstory.php

rshow55 - 10:36am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5303 of 5307)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If you want to see distinguished journalism - knowledgeable collection and framing of information - superior in quality and quantity to the ordinary run - - search lchic !

She's a wonder of the world - and I'm proud to plod along beside her.

I'm glad to see posting #5280-3 by gisterme - - they deal with important questions, and the selectivity and sharpness of them gives me hope that the Bush administration, and people who represent other nation states, may look at this thread - which is being conducted on the assumption (or fiction) that they do so.

5280 gisterme 10/27/02 12:54am links to my 5202 rshow55 10/24/02 7:17pm and disputes and contests the meaning of these questions:

"...Is the United States really blameless for the agony and death in Iraq? How many people, in how many countries, agree with that? (It wouldn't be hard to check . )..."

Something about that matter is discussed in U.S. and 2 of Its Allies Warn North Korea on Atomic Arms By TIM WEINER http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/27/international/asia/27SUMM.html which includes this:

" . . . President Vicente Fox of Mexico told President Bush today that his country, which holds a pivotal vote on the Security Council as it debates how to confront Iraq, is still unwilling to give the United States broad latitude to strike at Saddam Hussein.

"Mr. Fox's statement, at the end of a half-hour meeting with Mr. Bush just ahead of the opening of the annual summit meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation group, underscored the increasing concern within the White House that it might fail to assemble the votes needed to pass the kind of toughly worded Security Council resolution that Mr. Bush has been pressing for six weeks.

" . . . . .

"The White House wants to coerce the North Koreans through economic pressure. China, South Korea and Japan have been skeptical of that tactic, and today's statement was notable in part for its lack of specificity from South Korea.

. . .

" Other nations' leaders have used the conference to evoke a common humanity, as did Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, the deputy prime minister of Malaysia, who said that the world was becoming one giant "interconnected village — a village where if a house burns, no one is safe."

5280 gisterme 10/27/02 12:54am says what other nations think doesn't matter - what is important is what's the truth - - and then gisterme goes on to dispute any operational meaning to the notion of truth - except, perhaps - gisterme's "truth."

5281 gisterme 10/27/02 12:58am links to my rshow55 10/24/02 7:40pm and asks what I mean by the "foundation community" - - an interesting question. A question that I believe most ranking people in the media, foundation, or govenment world would know how to answer in workable fashion.

Sometimes I'm surprised by the intolerance, cocksureness, and insensitivity of gisterme , but I do respect gisterme's more than 700 posting on this thread - - and the incisiveness of these questions.

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