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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:30pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5257 of 5274)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

U.S. Raises Pressure on Russia and France for Iraq Resolution By JULIA PRESTON http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/26/international/middleeast/26NATI.html

UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 25 — In a tense three-way contest in the Security Council, the United States pressed today for rapid approval of its tough draft resolution to disarm Iraq while France and Russia presented their own informal texts designed to moderate the threat of military attack.

U.S.: We Can Bypass U.N. on Iraq Filed at 12:22 p.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-UN-Iraq.html

"SABO SAN LUCAS, Mexico (AP) -- Turning up the pressure on skeptical allies, the White House said Saturday it would be ``not hard at all'' to assemble an international coalition to disarm Saddam Hussein without U.N. help."

I wonder what "not hard" means, in this context, with negotiations where they are, and facts as they are?

It might be quite hard for UK, and for Australia. Who else would be in this "coalition?"

What would be left of international law - or American moral legitimacy?

To get good answers to those questions - the US would have to thread some very fine needles - with an intolerant world watching.

This thread has set out many things that ought to be checked in context. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/376

Lchic makes many key points here:
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Here's one connected to a lot of the other points:

WHY NO CHECKING PROCEDURES and STANDARDS ?

We need some. People with influence need to ask for them.

mazza9 - 01:59pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5258 of 5274)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Robert:

You called into question my Space University concept.

Here are the closing remarks made by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn at the Harvard commencement program in 1978.

"If the world has not approached its end, it has reached a major watershed in history, equal in importance to the turn from the Middle Ages to the Renaissance. It will demand from us a spiritual blaze; we shall have to rise to a new height of vision, to a new level of life, where our physical nature will not be cursed, as in the Middle Ages, but even more importantly, our spiritual being will not be trampled upon, as in the Modern Era.

The ascension is similar to climbing onto the next anthropological stage. No one on earth has any other way left but - upward."

lchic - 04:28pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5259 of 5274)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Asbestos

""rise to a new height of vision, to a new level of life, where our physical nature will not be cursed, as in the Middle Ages, but even more importantly, our spiritual being will not be trampled upon""

The USA Government have KNOWN since the 1930's that THERE IS A PROBLEM with ASBESTOS

and yet

THEY STILL HAVE NO LEGISLATION in place to protect people

Do the USA government care about the Health and Safety of workers ?

Rather than put pressure on ABB trying to send it to the wall, ABB should be showing how derelict the USA government is, was ..... and ever more shall be ...

Apart from spending half their federal budget on working to KILL segments of the world population ... what does it do?

lchic - 04:36pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5260 of 5274)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Sarandon Susan - Washington Today

commented on the

You're either with us or without us

lchic - 04:40pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5261 of 5274)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

LETTER | Alister Cooke

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/2361859.stm

He's out to get Saddam!

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