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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 07:43pm Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5200 of 5206)
commondata
10/24/02 5:11am
"...While we're being emotive (which I think is an
excellent idea) you might like to consider 2 World Trade
Centres full of children going down every month as a
deliberate result of US policy..."
If that were happening I would be apalled. However, that's
not what's happening and you know it. Saddam could have ended
the sanctions any time he wanted to. Saddam could have spent
the "oil for food" money on food instead of weapons and
palaces. US policy has nothing to do with Saddam's decision to
bleed his people. They're just his pawns in a game of world
opinion that he's hoping to turn against his enemies. You
certainly seem to be on Saddam's side in his game. So in a
way, you personally are helping starve those people by
giving Saddam your support. Why do you try to transfer
responsibility for Saddam's atrocities to others? Are you
related to him?
"...When have I ever defended an attrocity?"
You defend an atrocity each and every time you try to place
the blame for the atrocity at the feet of those who don't
deserve it. You do that regularly, commondata.
mazza9
- 07:50pm Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5201 of 5206) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
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go get'em gisterme, (I'm in an aliterative mood!)
gisterme
- 08:12pm Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5202 of 5206)
mazza9
10/24/02 7:50pm
"...(I'm in an aliterative mood!)"
Aliterative? Now there's a two-dollar word! :-)
WRT the space university idea, I think it's a fine concept
but not a very practical one given today's technology. We'll
need to understand the nature of space itself a little better
before we'll be able to get there with anything but giant
expensive precision-guided bottle rockets.
We're currently building the ISS which, in a way, is
exactly a space university. It's a place to learn about space
and about living and doing productive things in zero G. The
cost is not small. Just the space station. Perhaps we'll learn
what we need to learn aboard the ISS to make a true space
university of the sort you envision feasible someday.
rshow55
- 08:17pm Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5203 of 5206)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
gisterme
10/24/02 7:43pm . . the search facility is back, and if
you search commondata - - you'll find a very
distinguished sequence of fine postings - that make points
that can be checked.
We ought to be at a point where checking is
justified - indeed, morally forcing - - - 5117-51119 rshow55
10/22/02 4:22pm
A symbol and synonym for justice involves balance - - - we
have to worry about balance in the case of Iraq, and in other
cases, too.
Is the United States really blameless for
the agony and death in Iraq? How many people, in how
many countries, agree with that? (It wouldn't be hard to
check . )
International law, and patterns of international order, are
being renegotiated . Either that, or they are being
undermined.
The whole world has worry which is happening.
If some leaders could ask for checking - - in a way
that would validate work by major journalistic organizations -
a great deal could be accomplished.
Foundations, in the US and elsewhere, could and would
subsidize the work, if that validation occurred.
Tens of thousands, millions and tens of millions of lives
might be saved. And the life prospects of billions of
people might be improved - - if a few leaders showed the
necessary courage. For example, leaders who are, and will be,
meeting in Mexico.
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