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commondata
- 07:42am Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5188 of 5192)
kalter.rauch
10/24/02 4:21am
You're as inconsistent as lchic. I don't know how you
figure "US policy" is killing Iraqi children when it's the UN
that has agreed on the "oil for food, etc." program. Iraq
COULD be fed if Sodom Hussy would actually spend the $$$ on
food, medicine, etc. Instead, he builds endless "palaces" and
buys surplus military equipment from defunct ex-Soviet bloc
countries. Therefore the $$$ won't be forthcoming.
I don't think the 661 committee authorises palaces, kalter,
they have enough problem letting medicines through sometimes.
From http://www.8thdaycenter.org/052802.html
While [oil for food program] allows Iraq to sell varying
amounts of oil, not one dollar ever enters Iraq. Rather, the
proceeds are deposited in a UN controlled escrow account in a
NYC bank. Iraq then negotiates with various corporations for
food, spare parts, etc., all of which must be approved,
contract by contract, by the UN 661 committee. The US and
Britain have used their veto power on this committee to block
billions of dollars of contracts for, so called, dual use
items such as tires, pumps, etc. At the moment, $5.3 Billion
worth of goods is on hold. Despite the ineffectiveness of this
program in alleviating the suffering of the Iraqi people, most
good willed persons have been lulled into believing that the
worst of the suffering is over.
... Secretary of State Collin Powell let the cat out of
the bag: "Sanctions and the pressure of sanctions are part of
a strategy of regime change." (FT, 14 Feb. 2002)
At this juncture, we would be wise to consider the FBI’s
definition of Terrorism: "the unlawful use of force or
violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a
government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof,
in furtherance of political or social objectives."
Clearly, this definition applies to the US/UN 12 year war
against Iraq.
commondata
- 08:19am Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5189 of 5192)
kalter.rauch
10/24/02 4:21am
Oh, and Kalter, don't kid yourself that UN policy is much
distinguishible from US policy. See Boutros Boutros-Ghali says
about Flaws in
UN's moral authority on democracy.
Boutros-Ghali's comments come at a time when the US and
Britain continue to oppose the lifting of economic sanctions
against Iraq despite overwhelming support for it - both inside
and outside the United Nations.
Of the five permanent members of the Security Council,
namely France, Russia and China, have indicated willingness to
end sanctions against Iraq. But the US and UK have threatened
to veto any such move.
In his book, Boutros-Ghali provides evidence of how
Washington continues to manipulate the world body to its own
advantage and to protect its own interests.
When there was a proposal to relieve the sufferings of
the Iraqi people through a temporary suspension of the embargo
under an "Oil for Food" deal, the US dragged its feet because
it was a presidential election year. The White House feared
that the Iraqi issue could get embroiled in domestic politics,
he says. (IPS)
lchic
- 10:13am Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5190 of 5192) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Moscow - Theatre
Interesting to note that the RU-Chechen war was declared
'OVER' a while back .... yet the RU mob are still being asked
to withdraw.
When is a war not a war?
30 Foreign Nationals are tied into Moscow Theatre fiasco !
Any chance of Putin saying sorry to Chechens regarding the
abuses of it's officers.
Any chance of Chechens saying sorry for epic kidnap?
Putin (bbc.com) says an outside body has put the Chechens
up it - might that be so - how much Saudi small change
splashes into Chechen hands to encourage them to commit evil
attrocities.
Can Chechens be encouraged to be 'responsible' and work
towards having a decent country with some cultural and
economic self-sufficiency?
Is there plutonium floating -- is it safe or to be set
against humanity?
mazza9
- 11:20am Oct 24, 2002 EST (#
5191 of 5192) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
Surely Robert, lchic and commondata would be for a regime
change in Iraq if they stopped to ponder the precident! They
would then have the backing for a regime change in the United
States! The dictatorship of the proletariat could be
established and their "leadership" legalized!
My only question is where would they put their "gulag"?
I've been to the North slope of Alaska and that might fill the
bill. Of course, there is always the Nevada desert. Then
again, they might just set up their gas chambers in the
Wyoming wastelands. I suppose that I would be one of the early
converts. You know, converted from human being to fertilizer!
Say, lchic would make the perfect Gauleiter of the
re-education schools that might spring up around Alice!
My irony quotient has been reached. Over to you gisterme,
(or is it Condi? I forget what day it is and who I am!)
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