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lchic
- 05:03pm Oct 23, 2002 EST (#
5169 of 5174) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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George Kennan, 98 year old architect of the
COLD WAR DOCTRINE of CONTAINMENT said in The
New Yorker Oct 14-21
" I deplore doctrines. They purport to define one's
behaviour in future situations where it may or may not be
suitable.
This being the case, I could no more approve of a
doctrine of pre-emption than any other.
I could see justification only if the absence of it
would involve a major and imminent danger to our own country
or, at worst, to our most intimate and tradtional allies. Of
this I see no evidence.
The apparently imminent use of American armed
forces to drive Suddam Hussein from power seems to me well
out of proportion to the dangers involved.
I have seen no evidence that we have any realistic plans
for dealing with the greate state of confusion in Iraqi
affairs which would presumably follow even after the
successful elimination of the dictator ... I of course, am
not well informed.
But I fear that any attempt on our part to confront that
latent situation by military means alone could easily serve
to aggravate it rather than alleviate it. ~~~~~~~~~~~
The USA would benefit from a more vocal 'think tank'
of the emeritus who have accumulated wisdom, experience, and
the freedom to express opinions (look at the King the
King the King etc ) ... especially when it is the
obvious!
lchic
- 05:11pm Oct 23, 2002 EST (#
5170 of 5174) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Kennan
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/2496/future/kennan.html
http://wwics.si.edu/kennan/
gisterme
- 06:23pm Oct 23, 2002 EST (#
5171 of 5174)
commondata
10/23/02 4:43pm
"...And yet Gisterme, you've never heard of more than
100,000 people being killed deliberately by US policy?..."
Nope. All the ones you're talking about are being killed
deliberately by Iraqi policy. Except for the UN mandated
no-fly zones the US was out of Iraq within weeks of the end of
the Gulf War. And, oh, by the way, the entire Gulf War was the
result of Iraqi policy. One could fairly say that
culpability for all the deaths caused by the invasion of
Kuwait and it's liberation lie at the feet of Saddam.
"... But you are wrong to make 22 million people
culpable..."
I don't hold anybody culpable for Iraq's distress
except Saddam Hussein. The 22 million in Iraq are suffering
under his tender loving care as the direct result of
his policies, not the US. If you think it's not a crime
to rape your neighbor then say so, commondata. If you think
it's a crime to help your friend when she's being raped, then
say so.
That's all the UN including the US and the rest of the
coalition was doing when it put a stop to the rape of Kuwait.
Go tell Saddam that your whining and defending of his
atrocities isn't impressing many folks. Of course you're
liable to lose your head for saying you'd like to see the
backside of his regime. :-)
gisterme
- 06:35pm Oct 23, 2002 EST (#
5172 of 5174)
lchic
10/23/02 5:03pm
"...The USA would benefit from a more vocal 'think tank'
of the emeritus who have accumulated wisdom, experience, and
the freedom to express opinions..."
Emeritus? Isn't that just another way of saying the
elite?
You shame yourself, lchic. You folks seem to be on a
self-hypocrasy revelation binge today. But then, communists
are the ultimate elitists in that they believe that
only a few are really qualified to rule the many. That's
because they're sure common folk aren't smart enough to rule
themselves. And, of course, that elite few must be ruled by
one...
mazza9
- 07:24pm Oct 23, 2002 EST (#
5173 of 5174) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
gisterme:
You miss the point. Charlmagne grasped the crown from the
Pope and crowned himself King of the Franks. Robert and lchic
have done as much.
the "IF ONLY" crowd is comprised of those individuals who
have the mistaken belief in their intellecctual perfection and
moral superiority. "IF ONLY" everyone else would do as they
say, then paradise on Earth would be realized.
They don't get it and they certainly don't understand
history. That's why they're doomed to repeat it over and over
again.
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