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gisterme
- 01:39pm Oct 16, 2002 EST (#
4940 of 4974)
commondata
10/15/02 7:01pm
I said: "...however, it seems to me, that once I pay for
the gas in my tank, it's mine...no longer the property of the
supplier.
You said: "...Where's this metaphor going?..."
That's no metaphor, commiedata, just a statement of fact.
Sorry it's so hard for you to understand.
"...There seems to be the same sort of blind support for
Israel in the US as there is/was for the IRA and for the usual
reasons of tribal-religious ignorance-affiliation. It's a
local territorial dispute and it doesn't really become the US,
in its globally dominant position, to side with one side in
the face of international opinion set out in UN resolutions.
What about the rules?
Israel has been a long-time friend of the US, in fact, a
friend since the first day it's existance was mandated by the
UN. Palestine has never been a country...just a name
given to a region by the British empire. In my view, it would
be far more unbecoming for the US to abandon its friends.
I believe Israel would comply with UN resolutions if they
weren't being attacked and or threatened by their neighbors
who claim Israel has no right to exist. What about the rules
indeed?
"...What about the rules when you were arming Iraq in
the 80's?..."
I didn't notice a single piece of destroyed American-made
military equipment in any of the hours and hours of video that
came out of Iraq afther the Gulf War. All those tanks, APCs
and missiles were either Soviet-era Russian-made, or Chinese
clones of same. I believe Iraq did have a few French-made
Mirage aircraft.
"...What about the rules as you're killing more people
in Iraq than the combined total of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki
bombs; 5000 children killed each month because of sanctions?
How would it be if someone were doing that to you?..."
I see that since you can't answer my last post to you,
gisterme
10/15/02 4:00pm ,
you've turned to blustering;...but, I'll answer you anyway.
Firstly I'll say that the sanctions against Iraq are
the result of compliance with the "rules". They are the
result of UN resolutions. We (Americans) are not
killing all those babies. Saddam Hussein is doing that. All
he's ever needed to do to prevent or lift those
sanctions was to comply with UN resolutions that he agreed to
at the end of the Gulf War. It's Saddam who is not following
the "rules". Nobody is "doing it" to Iraq except Saddam
Hussein.
"...How would it be if someone were doing that to
you?..."
If the situation were reversed, I'd wager we'd simply
comply with the UN resolutions to prevent the sanctions.
continued...
gisterme
- 01:42pm Oct 16, 2002 EST (#
4941 of 4974)
gisterme
10/16/02 1:39pm ...continued:
"...You killed more people in Iraq than all weapons of
mass destruction ever..."
That's a lie.
"...Follow the trail of blood you've left back through
the recent past in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia,
Indonesia,..."
You demonstrate your support for anarchy, commiedata.
What's going on in Afghanistan needs no explanation to any
sane person. The cause of the Gulf War in Iraq needs no
explanation to any sane person. What began as a humanitarian
effort in Somalia was transformed into a debacle due to weak
US leadership. I'll give you that point. I'm not even sure
what you're talking about wrt Indonesia. It seems that
terrorists there are blowing the place up. That wouldn't be
us.
"...Cambodia, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Honduras, Chile ..."
Those were all Cold War battles except Cambodia. The
massacre of about two million people in Cambodia was the
responsibility of Pol Pot, the communist revolutionary.
"...You are the terrorists..."
Talk is cheap, commiedata.
I said: "Bloody men delight in spilling blood especially
innocent blood."
You said: "Irony?"
Not irony at all. Just another simple fact proven by
history and currently being demonstrated to the world by
Saddam Hussein. It has previously been demonstrated by Hitler,
Stalin, Chairman Mao and others on a smaller scale...all named
here are communists except Hitler.
lchic
- 01:42pm Oct 16, 2002 EST (#
4942 of 4974) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
WATER
'used to think that water was just wet as wet as wet
could get Yet now it seems it's brown or green Check
out this minor catchment stream The last I heard
The water's dry There is a lack - but
who knows WHY?
lchic2002 see
Water | the Sharon/Bush talks are about Northern Palestine
water external to it's boundary.
Water | Singapore and Malaysia have a water dispute. The
contract to supply water to Singapore was drawn up in the
Sixties. The low denomination price for water doesn't cover
Malaysias realtime monetary cost of it's provision.
Water | recycling | innovative pump designs give relief to
drought stricken areas
Turn brown to green
lchic
- 01:50pm Oct 16, 2002 EST (#
4943 of 4974) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Gisterme - note Saddam has just re-elected himself
President for the next 7 years - a remarkable 100% turnout and
approval rating ... even Florida couldn't top that for
polling!
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