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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 10:08pm Oct 13, 2002 EST (#
4849 of 4859)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
The terrorists make the United States look good - and give
plenty of evidence that the US and other advanced nations do
have vital military needs.
The United States has an enormous amount to be proud of -
about its culture, and its technology - - including its
military technology.
Even so, the United States isn't always at its best - and
not all American technology is always good - or under good
control. Both americans and others need to understand that
there are technical forces and economic forces in the United
States that no one is particularly proud of - and that no one
has under ideal control.
If truth and efficiency were always the only
issues in politics, getting right answers to issues like
missile defense could be done - according to standards that
could stand the light of day - nationally and internationally,
according to patterns such as those set out in MD1896-1899 rshow55
4/30/02 10:10am . The standards that apply in jury trials
could be brought to bear - in a very public way. For elected
officials, however, pressures are often quite different -
though political technology can be very effective in its way.
rshow55
- 10:08pm Oct 13, 2002 EST (#
4850 of 4859)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
For example, the "political technology" that sustains the
"missile defense" boondoggle, and much else that has grown
cancerous about the US military-industrial complex since the
"end" of the cold war, is powerful - so powerful that
politicians, even the best and most patriotic ones, sometimes
have to bend to it - - to survive. , and understanding how
powerful it is, and how it works, is important so that it can
be countered. It is important that facts be established, and
decisions based on them. When the public is informed, paying
attention, and acting wisely this happens. But the nightmare
irrationality of much of US foreign policy, and the missile
defense boondoggle, is based on other "logic."
That logic was very well illustrated in
Bush 2000 Adviser Offered To Use Clout to Help Enron
By Joe Stephens Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday,
February 17, 2002
" Just before the last presidential
election, Bush campaign adviser Ralph Reed offered to help
Enron Corp. deregulate the electricity industry by working
his "good friends" in Washington and by mobilizing religious
leaders and pro-family groups . . . http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22380-2002Feb16.html
The text of http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22380-2002Feb16.html
is well worth reading as we approach election day.
Similar pressures are applied - - with great sophistication
and organization - to defend projects, like missile defense -
that are not in any reasonable national interest. The size of
the US defense budget (more than half a billion dollars/year
for every member of the House and Senate) makes these
pressures unavoidable. Eisenhower warned against the almost
all-pervasive influences resulting in his FAREWELL ADDRESS http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
That's an important reason why getting at the truth, on
some key issues of military history, and technical fact - may
require questions, and attention, from people outside of the
United States who have a stake in what the United States does.
I believe that many politicians who don't feel comfortable
asking those questions - - and many military people, too,
would welcome them.
Mesopotamia .....1917 by Rudyard Kipling http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee74d94/3625
lchic
- 11:20pm Oct 13, 2002 EST (#
4851 of 4859) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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US damns attack as a cowardly act
14oct02
THE United States yesterday condemned the bombing as a
"despicable act of terror".
"The United States Government condemns in the strongest
possible terms this despicable act of terror," the US embassy
said in a statement. "The United States has offered all
appropriate assistance to the Government of Indonesia to see
that those responsible for this cowardly act face justice,"
the statement said.
http://heraldsun.news.com.au/
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